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post Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 11:31
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/...at-britain-2013

Some data for those who claim that 99% of cars were going faster than the speed limit.
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post Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 13:19
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So 1% of HGV's still break the 50mph limit by more than 10mph despite them all nominally being limited to 56mph......interesting fact that!


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post Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 18:16
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More interesting is that only 18% of hgv's break the 40mph nsl limit... I'd say its 18% who actually stick to the 40 limit (thank god though...)
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post Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 19:21
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 14:19) *
So 1% of HGV's still break the 50mph limit by more than 10mph despite them all nominally being limited to 56mph......interesting fact that!

Interesting indeed. There's a few prison sentences being missed the me thinks.
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post Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 21:46
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QUOTE (glasgow_bhoy @ Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 19:16) *
More interesting is that only 18% of hgv's break the 40mph nsl limit... I'd say its 18% who actually stick to the 40 limit (thank god though...)

Read it again - 18% exceed it by 10mph.
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post Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 22:29
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QUOTE (gedblanker @ Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 20:21) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Thu, 5 Jun 2014 - 14:19) *
So 1% of HGV's still break the 50mph limit by more than 10mph despite them all nominally being limited to 56mph......interesting fact that!

Interesting indeed. There's a few prison sentences being missed the me thinks.

Read only a couple of days ago about operators fitting oversized tyres that make the speed measurement under-read

Can they over-speed at all downhill ?
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post Fri, 6 Jun 2014 - 05:49
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There is an Irish operator well known for getting the limiter set up on the smallest option tyres then fitting the largest...

I dare say there are some hllls they can coast down over the limiter, but not many as Motorways are levelled to flatter than the prevailing countryside.


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post Fri, 6 Jun 2014 - 06:01
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It's a Government statistic. it must be true.

I am not sure these figures represent what I see every day. The motorway speeding figure seems close to what I experience, the HGV 40 mph + 10 speeding figure definitely appears lower than I experience.
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post Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 15:20
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One thing I reckon is a bit iffy about the stats given is the average speed for HGVs being 59mph; all HGVs have limiters set to 56 mph, so assuming "most" are correctly set give or take 1mph, how come the majority are averaging 3mpg over the set limit? That must mean an awful lot are doing well over 60 to produce the 59mph average!

I drive my car "quite quickly" when abroad, sometimes up to and over 100 mph where allowed, but the average speed on a journey abroad will only be about 43 mph! So to average 59 on the same journey would mean I'd have to do 200 mph where allowed to achieve that average!

anyway, we all know government stats re true, Sgt D says so! biggrin.gif
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post Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 15:38
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An extremely interesting set of statistics, of which I will query a few things:-

WTF are they for?

How much did they cost to create?

Of what use are they?

Has the government got money to waste on such c***?

So my conclusion? As Richard Osman says, Pointless.


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post Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 15:47
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QUOTE (roythebus @ Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 16:20) *
One thing I reckon is a bit iffy about the stats given is the average speed for HGVs being 59mph; all HGVs have limiters set to 56 mph, so assuming "most" are correctly set give or take 1mph, how come the majority are averaging 3mpg over the set limit? That must mean an awful lot are doing well over 60 to produce the 59mph average!

I drive my car "quite quickly" when abroad, sometimes up to and over 100 mph where allowed, but the average speed on a journey abroad will only be about 43 mph! So to average 59 on the same journey would mean I'd have to do 200 mph where allowed to achieve that average!

anyway, we all know government stats re true, Sgt D says so! biggrin.gif

You can't equate the average speed of a journey with the average of speeds taken at a fixed point.
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post Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 16:57
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QUOTE (roythebus @ Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 16:20) *
One thing I reckon is a bit iffy about the stats given is the average speed for HGVs being 59mph; all HGVs have limiters set to 56 mph, so assuming "most" are correctly set give or take 1mph, how come the majority are averaging 3mpg over the set limit? That must mean an awful lot are doing well over 60 to produce the 59mph average!

I drive my car "quite quickly" when abroad, sometimes up to and over 100 mph where allowed, but the average speed on a journey abroad will only be about 43 mph! So to average 59 on the same journey would mean I'd have to do 200 mph where allowed to achieve that average!

anyway, we all know government stats re true, Sgt D says so! biggrin.gif




Your very very lucky if you get a truck that will actually do 56mph on a flat surface.Many are now limited to 52 and the rest are generally set by the speedo and most over read leaving many trucks at a true 54/55 mph.There is a few that under read,very popular trucks wink.gif

The other thing to bear in mind most if not all of the big companies come down very heavy nowadays on speeding and have software that flag up each and every instance of it.Thats ontop of the software attached the the tacho's which is relayed through Germany and back to operators,who can then judge what if any action to take against drivers.

With that said its very easy with a loaded truck to exceeed 60 mph but few will do it as it flags up immediatly so will allow the truck to go to 59mph before kerbing it, which on a motorway is perfectly legal.
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post Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 22:34
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QUOTE (fedup2 @ Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 17:57) *
With that said its very easy with a loaded truck to exceeed 60 mph but few will do it as it flags up immediatly so will allow the truck to go to 59mph before kerbing it, which on a motorway is perfectly legal.

Blimey, crossing the hard shoulder to use the kerb to slow down and it's legal? Surely brakes are easier and far safer?


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post Sun, 8 Jun 2014 - 07:54
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QUOTE (Transit man @ Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 23:34) *
QUOTE (fedup2 @ Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 17:57) *
With that said its very easy with a loaded truck to exceeed 60 mph but few will do it as it flags up immediatly so will allow the truck to go to 59mph before kerbing it, which on a motorway is perfectly legal.

Blimey, crossing the hard shoulder to use the kerb to slow down and it's legal? Surely brakes are easier and far safer?

Its an advanced technique TM, beyond our abilities I'm afraid laugh.gif
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post Tue, 10 Jun 2014 - 09:07
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Interesting that motorway speeds for cars have mostly seen a decline. Presumably fuel costs are a factor.
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post Thu, 26 Jun 2014 - 17:02
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QUOTE (roythebus @ Sat, 7 Jun 2014 - 16:20) *
I drive my car "quite quickly" when abroad, sometimes up to and over 100 mph where allowed, but the average speed on a journey abroad will only be about 43 mph! So to average 59 on the same journey would mean I'd have to do 200 mph where allowed to achieve that average!



My best one was from Calais to Rome...my average speed on the car's computer for the whole journey was 99.9mph. I reset the computer coming off the ferry and took the reading coming off the autostrada about 40kms from Rome when I went for a cool beer in a bar in Bracciano.
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