Hello friends i am back once again today i have received yet another letter from a different solicitor (Gladstones Solicitor) citing that i owe £160 to Uk car park management Ltd. I havent a clue where this happened or when i parked in there car park etc but the letter from gladstones is a letter before claim letter and i hope someone can help in what i should do next. I ignored such a letter previously and i am in a court case against CEL on where i am being helped out on another thread.In the Gladstones letter it says i need to reply within 30 days or legal proceedings will take effect thank you for reading.
So you write back to Gladstones and ask for all the document they will be relying on in this case in order to achieve the overriding objective of narrowing the issue. In particular you need a copy of any windscreen ticket if there is one and a copy of the Notice to Keeper.
Business must be slow for them. I got one in the post today as well for one that I apparently got 2 years ago. They might be going through their old files.
Thing is I'm the sort of person who will end up paying them considering i don't want more court troubles at this stressful time in life.
Your personal decision, but this is a civil matter, not criminal, totally different.
Either way I know they'll hound me and after the current situation I'm in with Cel I don't think I've got it in me to write up defences and witness statements which I can't do anyway and I feel I am too much of headache for people on this forum because I don't understand what I'm doing. Would be best all round iff I paid up n call it a day.
Which of your cases does this refer to http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=Search&nav=au&CODE=show&searchid=130a76a3ef60c5b6d0876614fae4c0ba&search_in=topics&result_type=topics (or is it a new one) if its a duplicate thread for an existing case it would be better to get them merged.
If you are in one court case, then the next is easier!
Is this actually from Gallstones or is it a letter sent by a DCA on Gallstones headed paper? The clue will be in who it tells you to pay!
This is a totally new case nothing to do with other 2. The letter is definitely from Gladstone's I logged online to there official site and the case I said there under the reference number.
The LBA from gladstones almost certianly does not comply with the requirements of the PAP for debt claims, and even more as you have no idea what this is about you MUSt repsond back asking them to comply with the protocol by senfding COPIES of all relevant documents such as a notice tor keeper, copieso f the contract they allege is in place - meaning the signs - and anything else you can find that would be useful....
Iff they almost certainly do not have the relevant documents could I possibly just ignore it.
That doesn't stop Gladstones. Reply requesting a compliant LBA (which they won't send). Then, in a few months you'll most likely receive court papers.
I've already logged onto there website and replied as to why I don't think I owe anything because I always display my permit but I don't think it will wash with them.
sam0056,
is this a residential parking case?
Yes for the parking space in the drive way of where I live.
Yes I've implicated myself as the driver it seems. I've replied on Gladstone's official website by logging on because the alleged debt now Gladstone's are trying to collect.
Riiiight, and that was after you came here? Odd.
I realize but it's quite a lengthy process which in already going through with another parking company which went to far and has becomea real headache which is why I was considering paying.
Yes but...it's a scam and good people don't pay, fund and sponsor scams.
I understand all that but all the defence statements witness statements etc I just can't word it or anything and there's all sorts of court deadlines n things which all becomes too much for me. Iff there was a quick way out of be happy to take it but I find it very complicated while carrying for my pensioner mother. That's the reason I'm thinking of paying for it to go away. Although of course your sentiments are spot on don't pay the scammers and in a sense encourage them.
Presumably, you are living in a leasehold property.
Do you own the lease? Or are you renting under a tenancy agreement?
It is a rented property and the leaseholder is my mother. The tenancy agreement which i just checked online states (ensure you have a parking permit or ticket and it is displayed correctly)
So get out your mother's lease and see what it says about parking. Is there a right to park, even a demised parking space.
I hope your mood will pick up once you beat CEL!
It's UKCPM
In residential parking cases, the lease is usually the resident's greatest friend.
So, the first thing to do now is to get hold of a copy of your mother's lease (just as ostell said).
Stating in the TA that you should have a permit and display it, doesnt mean failure to do so means you pay someone, and doesnt mean tat in order to park you have to enter a contract. It is merely something for the convenience of others - not indication youve entered into a contract
Plus, failing to display a permit is at best at breach of TA, something the PPC is a compelte stranger to. They can FRO.
Hi again i may be mistaken but i think i have discovered a fake gladstones solicitor website. The letter i got and the web address on it takes me to gladstones debt recovery site but there is also another one spelt slightly differently which seems to be the real Gladstones solicitors. Could someone please compare the 2 because i think Uk car park management may have made this site up to look like the official Gladstones website.
https://www.gladstonessolicitors.co.uk/debt-information possibly fake
http://www.gladstonesolicitors.co.uk/ real
From web site #1 - "Gladstones Solicitors Is Authorised & Regulated By The Solicitors Regulation Authority: 559050. Company Number: 7535449"
From web site #2 - "regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority SRA no: 630857." "Gladstone Solicitors Ltd, a company registered at Companies House No:09079884"
Definitely something very smelly going on!
Edit - just noticed the first is "Gladstones Solicitors" and the second "Gladstone Solicitors" (singular Gladstone). I wonder if there are two such solicitors?
On the letter i have there is no address for them just a number to ring them for online payment and the web address also for payment. Is it possible they are not a solicitor at all and it is the parking company who just made the site to loo like an official solicitors and the headed letter i got is just fake too.
Here is the letter please let me know what you guys think please i think it is fake.
http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah14/sam0056/gladstones%20letter%202-min_zpsjjxtsmzu.jpg
First link is real. Second link is just a different solicitors with a similar name. Nothing dodgy there.
Strange their LBC is not the usual one though. Missing the phone number to the top right. Strange there is no address on the bottom.
there is an address at the very bottom of the letter I was unable to capture it in the picture I'll try to upload the very bottom part later on.
bottom half of the letter
http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah14/sam0056/gladstones%20lower_zpsfqeom7f7.jpg
Have you done anything about getting a copy of the lease yet?
If you have not, you need to move this forward.
If the lease cannot be found, you might be able to get a copy from the solicitors who acted when the lease was purchased.
Alternatively, you can get a copy from the Land Registry using form OC2.
As mentioned previously, in residential cases, the lease is very often the resident's greatest friend.
I was told when I phoned them that the lease could be viewed on the below page but I couldn't find it.
https://www.bpha.org.uk
I found this on the site to which you link above.
https://www.bpha.org.uk/your-home/tenancy-guide/
Under the sub heading 'Maintaining Your Tenancy'- scroll down and read the page -
'Parking' -
Parking is a very sensitive issue that can upset both residents and non residents. bpha tend not to get involved in any parking disputes and you will need to resolve these types of dispute yourself. We ask that you abide by the terms of your tenancy agreement, requirements of the local authority that you live in and the Highway Code.
Remember you are responsible for all members of your household and all visitors to your property.
Please;
only park on the street or in marked parking spaces,
ensure you have a parking permit or ticket and it is displayed correctly,
do not park on grass areas, paths or verges,
you must not park cars, trailers commercial vehicles, caravans or boats or similar in your garden or land.
If you, a member of or visitor to your household has abandoned a vehicle on bpha land we will give you notice to remove the vehicle. If the vehicle is not removed bpha will remove it and you will be responsible for all costs incurred. We will treat any vehicle as abandoned if it is on our land and is untaxed or unroadworthy.
Covenants
You will comply with any covenants that apply to your Property of which you are made aware of at the start of your tenancy or at a later date by a representative of bpha.
Garages
We own a number of garages to rent in Bedford and surrounding villages. Please contact us if you are interested in renting one.
Abandoned or untaxed cars
If we are aware that vehicles are not taxed or appear to be abandoned we will notify the DVLA. You can also report an abandoned vehicle via your local council website. Find out who that is via this link using your postcode.
If you need to dispose of a vehicle please look online for companies who may be able to assist or contact your local council.
yes i read this now. When i have emailed them through there supposed gladstones solicitor site asking for NTK and any evidence they have not replied and as you may have noticed the deadline to pay is just after the end of the month.
OK, from a previous answer, I presumed that your mother was the leasehold owner of the property and that you were renting it from her. But I think I have a better picture now, i.e. your mother is renting the property under a tenancy agreement and you are simply living with her.
I think what you, whjohnson and, now, I have found is not the tenancy agreement, but some explanatory text about the tenancy agreement. It implies that, under the tenancy agreement, you do not have a right to park where you live unless you display a parking permit. I presume that you did park without displaying a parking permit.
Unless you can demonstrate that your mother's tenancy agreement states something to the contrary, you could have a problem defending the claim and your mother could end up in trouble with the landlord for failing to comply (by failing to ensure that you complied) with the tenancy agreement.
If the tenancy agreement does allow you to park there at all, post what it says, in which case I may be able to offer you some assistance.
Alternatively, if the tenancy does not allow you to park there, you need to seek others' views on how you might defend yourself against a claim, e.g. forbidding signage, failure to meet the requirements of Schedule 4 to POFA2012, etc..
You can ask Gladstones for any missing paperwork, e.g. the parking contract, the notice to keeper and so on, by replying to the letter before/of claim.
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