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VulcanEssex
post Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 13:57
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post Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 22:58
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 22:46) *
With your limited time available I think it is a bit late to embark on a scientific challenge to the accuracy of an approved device.

More importantly, this is a fight for someone who was 100% not speeding and/or can afford a few tens of thousands in possible legal costs


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post Wed, 10 Jan 2018 - 08:55
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The OP seems to have taken his ball away, so there's little point in providing any more advice here. Hopefully he's not relying on deleting his posts to make them disappear from internet search engine caches.


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post Wed, 10 Jan 2018 - 09:25
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QUOTE (StationCat @ Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 22:20) *
QUOTE (fh3hd7dh3d1qz @ Tue, 9 Jan 2018 - 20:50) *
70mph = 112.63498920086Kph
1,126,349 metres per hour or
18772 metres per minute or
312 metres a second or
31.2 metres every 0.1 second.

Tracking a vehicle which has moved 93.6 metres in the 0.3 seconds it takes to calculate the speed at the right angles will guarantee slip, all that needs to be determined is the angles.

70 mph is 31.3 metres per second not 312. So it moved 10.4 metres in 0.3 seconds. If you are going to offer 'scientific' advice please check it before you post wink.gif

With regard to the slip issue - if this laser speed gun is similar to the Ultralyte, then its beam divergence is about 1 foot per 100 metres. This ping was at a distance of 74 metres so the beam is less than one foot wide - not much chance of slip when aimed on the front of a car.


Further, the elapsed time between three readings 0.1 seconds apart is actually 0.2, not 0.3, so the distance travelled is a mere six metres.
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post Thu, 11 Jan 2018 - 08:25
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Wed, 10 Jan 2018 - 09:55) *
Hopefully he's not relying on deleting his posts to make them disappear from internet search engine caches.


I missed the original but it is on Google Cache, amusing.


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Jlc
post Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 08:46
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I'm surprised the OP hasn't been back to update us.


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post Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 10:14
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QUOTE (Jlc @ Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 08:46) *
I'm surprised the OP hasn't been back to update us.

To boast of his triumphal acquittal despite our scepticism?


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post Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 12:13
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QUOTE (Jlc @ Fri, 12 Jan 2018 - 08:46) *
I'm surprised the OP hasn't been back to update us.

I've asked the court for the outcome, I'll post an update when I get a response


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cp8759
post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 11:51
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In the end VulcanEssex decided to plead guilty.

Outcome:
Fine of £75
Victim surcharge £30
CPS costs of £85
Driving licence endorsed with 3 points

We have no idea what he said in mitigation, but given how badly it could have gone, I think he's done quite well.


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post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 12:13
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 11:51) *
We have no idea what he said in mitigation, but given how badly it could have gone, I think he's done quite well.

Seems to follow the sentencing guidelines - I think the OP said they had no earnings so were caught by the minimum level. Costs and surcharge all normal.

I think they made the right decision too. (Aside from accepting course/CoFP)

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