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Address on licence is correct but all other docs go to old address - tickets issued
yelf2
post Sun, 17 Jun 2018 - 20:38
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So im confused.


Ive told the DVLA about my new address but some stuff hasnt been updated.


Whats happended is when i bought my new car the dealer screwed up - which has led to 2 parking fines being sent to me at my old address (which were not from me as i had sold the car!). As far as I am concerned I can ignore them as by rights I should never have even known they were issued. (I will ask a separate question on the parking fines in the right forum) but.....


..my concern is that if the parking fine issuer is sent a "addressee no longer here" reply that they contact the DVLA and i get a fine - even though my licence is on my right address.


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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 14:02
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QUOTE (Incandescent @ Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 10:56) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 10:02) *
Ok, so read the back.

Indeed you must, and then must submit representations to the council under the statutory grounds of "I was not the owner at the date of the

On your V5C for your new car you'll see a section on the third page headed "Selling or transferrring your vehicle to a motor trader, insurer or dismantler". This instructs you to fill in the details and return this section to the DVLA. Did you do this, and do it straightaway ? If you were a bit tardy in doing so, the DVLA will still have your details, not the trader, so you get the statutory documents that are sent after a PCN is issued to the car and no payment or representations are received. The first document is what you have now, a Notice to Owner.


No. he did it all online but didnt press submit or something - took 11 days after me buying the car for the transaction etc to be finalsied properly
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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 17:01
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QUOTE (yelf2 @ Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 15:02) *
QUOTE (Incandescent @ Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 10:56) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 10:02) *
Ok, so read the back.

Indeed you must, and then must submit representations to the council under the statutory grounds of "I was not the owner at the date of the

On your V5C for your new car you'll see a section on the third page headed "Selling or transferrring your vehicle to a motor trader, insurer or dismantler". This instructs you to fill in the details and return this section to the DVLA. Did you do this, and do it straightaway ? If you were a bit tardy in doing so, the DVLA will still have your details, not the trader, so you get the statutory documents that are sent after a PCN is issued to the car and no payment or representations are received. The first document is what you have now, a Notice to Owner.


No. he did it all online but didnt press submit or something - took 11 days after me buying the car for the transaction etc to be finalsied properly

Sorry, you've misunderstood. The onus is on the keeper of the car to send off the above part of the V5C, not the motor trader accepting the car. If you had sent off this section as soon as your old car was handed over you'd not have had all this trouble. It's always best not to rely on others in these matters.
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post Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 22:19
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I don't know why but I have this nagging doubt the OP is not on board. Nothing in responses indicate understanding/acceptance
of the situation. Sorry if I'm wrong.

Yelf, do you now understand that you can't do this? >
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As far as I am concerned I can ignore them



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post Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 10:20
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QUOTE (Neil B @ Wed, 20 Jun 2018 - 23:19) *
I don't know why but I have this nagging doubt the OP is not on board. Nothing in responses indicate understanding/acceptance
of the situation. Sorry if I'm wrong.

Yelf, do you now understand that you can't do this? >
QUOTE (yelf2 @ Sun, 17 Jun 2018 - 21:38) *
As far as I am concerned I can ignore them



yes. you are wrong. Thanks for your input.

You seem to mis-understand. I only got notice of the letters by sheer fluke. I havent lived at the address for 2 years - hence me querying whether i could ignore them as by rights i shouldnt have seen them.
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post Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 10:57
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QUOTE (yelf2 @ Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 11:20) *
I only got notice of the letters by sheer fluke. I havent lived at the address for 2 years - hence me querying whether i could ignore them as by rights i shouldnt have seen them.


See post 8, (especially the last paragraph) you now know about it, if you deal with it as suggested in that and other posts, it can be sorted out. If you continue to ignore the matter it can get much worse.







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post Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 16:25
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OP, shall we try putting dates to events?

NTO dated 12 June 2018 in respect of a PCN dated 8 May;
NTO addressed to the OP at an address at which they’ve not lived for 2 years;
Vehicle sold to a dealer on an unspecified date ( which it would be useful to know);
OP’s name removed from DVLA register of keepers 11 days after sale;
It can reasonably be assumed that this did not take place before 8 May, therefore sale effected late April, to be confirmed;

OP wants to know whether they could ignore these and subsequent notices, implicitly with impunity.

From the above it follows that OP’s address as RK was wrong in the first place, being out of date by 2 years. Perhaps this gives rise to the ‘sheer fluke’ that caused the NTO to plop on their mat. But the fact remains that the OP has been served with a NTO via their previous address as RK, a common situation and one which should happen more than it does (because RK’s forget to update DVLA) and is one which IMO does not give rise to any defence.

What does, however, is the fact that the OP was not the owner.

So does the OP want to ignore all notices until the enforcement agents catch up and then run the risk that any OOT application would be refused thereby denying them access to a cast-iron defence, or to play their cast-iron defence?

That the question is even raised makes me wonder whether something in the account is amiss.

And of course if the OP’s ‘new car’ was seized to pay the debt then unless this was paid the loss to the OP from a sale by auction of their car would be very, very significant.

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post Thu, 21 Jun 2018 - 16:45
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+1

Does anyone else feel, in this virtual internet scenario, the equivalent of being stared blankly in the face?


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