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Alphaman101
post Mon, 23 Jul 2018 - 22:35
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"The Unique Reference Number (URN) isn't valid. Enter the number exactly as it appears on page 1 of the notice"

Why is this happening? I tried entering it into the make a plea site as soon as I received it- it didn't work then so I thought it was because I was trying it too early and it wasn't quite in the system yet so wasn't being recognised. It's a week since I received it and the court date is just over a week away and it's still not working... no idea why...

I've tried varying including the forward slashes, not typing them in but neither works. All the other characters are definitely correct.

The URN is of the following format where # represents a number and * represents a letter:

##/**/#######/##
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post Sat, 4 Aug 2018 - 10:18
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RTOA 1988 S.28
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(4)Where a person is convicted (whether on the same occasion or not) of two or more offences committed on the same occasion and involving obligatory endorsement, the total number of penalty points to be attributed to them is the number or highest number that would be attributed on a conviction of one of them (so that if the convictions are on different occasions the number of penalty points to be attributed to the offences on the later occasion or occasions shall be restricted accordingly).
(5)In a case where (apart from this subsection) subsection (4) above would apply to two or more offences, the court may if it thinks fit determine that that subsection shall not apply to the offences (or, where three or more offences are concerned, to any one or more of them).

It comes down to
1. Whether the court considers they were committed 'on the same occasion' or not
2. Whether even if they do they then consider two lots of points appropriate anyway.

In your case I'd expect them to say yes to the first and no to the second, so one lot of points (whichever of the two is higher).


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post Sat, 4 Aug 2018 - 13:47
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subsection (5) is very rarely used, I remember talking to a very experienced court clerk with a particular interest in traffic who was quite unaware of it!


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Alphaman101
post Sun, 5 Aug 2018 - 14:36
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Also- if licence goes all I have to do is resit the bike tests and I get both car and bike back yeah?
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notmeatloaf
post Sun, 5 Aug 2018 - 16:07
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As you haven't told us why you'd lose your licence - presumably new drivers or totting.

Totting you don't need to pass any test.
New drivers you only need to pass one test and you will get both entitlements back.
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Alphaman101
post Sun, 5 Aug 2018 - 16:21
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New driver so woohoo smile.gif

Totting (I assume you mean 12 points) if you lose it how you get back?
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post Sun, 5 Aug 2018 - 16:52
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QUOTE (Alphaman101 @ Sun, 5 Aug 2018 - 17:21) *
Totting (I assume you mean 12 points) if you lose it how you get back?

You apply for a licence to be issued to you.


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