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Speaky2
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 13:38
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Hi guys, I’m after some help if possible please, we received a fine through the post today from the peel centre Stockport, the driver was adamant they paid and after searching there car they found the pay ticket. Upon further inspection that the machine may be faulty. Is there any hope in winning this? I’m just hoping somebody had had some experience with similar and has got good news.
Any help would be much appreciated

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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 14:44
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QUOTE (Speaky2 @ Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 14:38) *
Is there any hope in winning this?

Yes, but only at court...

See this very relevant information HERE.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 14:51
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Chances of a successful appeal ?
Almost zero

Chances of winning in court ?
Very high

I would make a challenge as the keeper
Under no circumstances identify the driver
This will demonstrate to a court later that you acted reasonably

Do not make the second appeal to the IAS when it's offered
It's a kangaroo court and you have no chance

Just file and ignore all further correspondence short of a Letter Before Claim
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Speaky2
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 16:41
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Thanks for the reply guys, I will let you know what I decide
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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 19:55
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Is the Ntk POFA compluant so that they can claim from the keeper?
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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 21:42
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The Parking was paid for so there is no loss to them.
These machines can be faulty or sticky key pads.
Also edit your post and remove anything that may identify who drove the vehicle, refer only to "the driver" did this or that.
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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 21:47
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Wasn't there at least one claim where the judge ruled that the registration number error was the result of a communication fault between the keypad at the Peel Centre and the Excel base ?
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 06:23
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I think that Excel had their marching orders from The Peel Centre Stockport a couple of months ago.

@OP - please confirm which parking firm is pursuing you.
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 08:16
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Good point

That sounds familiar
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Speaky2
post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 10:49
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Cheers guys, we’ve appealed and let’s see what happens next
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 13:06
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QUOTE (Dave65 @ Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 22:42) *
The Parking was paid for so there is no loss to them.

I doubt they actually collect the tariff themselves - which is why they are so interested in their charges... (It's their only income)

...but I agree there's a good argument that Beavis could be disengaged and it could be considered an unenforceable penalty.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 13:29
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Original post still needs editing second line always "the driver" did everything.
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 19:25
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QUOTE (Speaky2 @ Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 10:49) *
Cheers guys, we’ve appealed and let’s see what happens next

To whom did you appeal? Did you miss my earlier (possibly important) question?

QUOTE (Umkomaas @ Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 06:23) *
I think that Excel had their marching orders from The Peel Centre Stockport a couple of months ago.

@OP - please confirm which parking firm is pursuing you.
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 19:51
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Care Parking took over it seems HERE.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 19:58
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So when was the "offence" and what dates are on the letter and when was it received? Perhaps post up the redacted NTK

I'm thinking along the lines that if they have been thrown off they are trying g to make money from out of date events.
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