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jlsmith
post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 12:05
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I was interested this: "Hornby admitted speeding and was sentenced in his absence. He was disqualified from driving for nine months and handed a £325 fine.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-52...h-motorway.html

I thought conventional wisdom was that you can't be banned in your absence - ie you have to be present in court?
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post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 14:17
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Normally yes. Perhaps he had sent representation or the ban was communicated to him. (A ban was inevitable - just how long was the question)

This is ensure a separate offence is not committed by driving after sentencing as it's immediate.


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post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 19:14
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QUOTE (jlsmith @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 12:05) *
I thought conventional wisdom was that you can't be banned in your absence - ie you have to be present in court?


You thought wrong.
You cannot be banned in your absence without first being required to attend - failing to adhere to that requirement does not stop you being banned.


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The officer then gave chase, with shocking dashcam footage showing he reached 155mph himself, before Hornby starts to apply the brakes.
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Speaking after the hearing, PC Foster said he could not believe anyone would drive at such high speeds.




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post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 19:36
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I'm shocked.


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southpaw82
post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 20:30
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Well, other than the driving gods who make up the Roads Policing Units, natch.


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post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 20:47
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Ex rock star ? He's still on speed
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post Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 23:32
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 20:30) *
Well, other than the driving gods who make up the Roads Policing Units, natch.


Modesty forbids.....
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post Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 00:07
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QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 23:32) *
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 20:30) *
Well, other than the driving gods who make up the Roads Policing Units, natch.


Modesty forbids.....

Force policy usually forbids...


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post Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 08:13
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 00:07) *
QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 23:32) *
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 20:30) *
Well, other than the driving gods who make up the Roads Policing Units, natch.


Modesty forbids.....

Force policy usually forbids...


Nah......
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post Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 13:26
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QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 00:07) *
QUOTE (baggins1234 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 23:32) *
QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Tue, 23 Jan 2018 - 20:30) *
Well, other than the driving gods who make up the Roads Policing Units, natch.


Modesty forbids.....

Force policy usually forbids...


And yet Devon and Cornwall were "fully behind" their officer who tweeted a video of his fellow colleague driving at 140mph on a shout. wink.gif

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post Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 19:24
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QUOTE (typefish @ Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 13:26) *
And yet Devon and Cornwall were "fully behind" their officer who tweeted a video of his fellow colleague driving at 140mph on a shout. wink.gif

So am I, if police were capped at say 120, any drug dealer in a stolen high performance car will just think "well, I'll just do 140 down the motorway and the old bill won't follow me..."


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post Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 23:24
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The context was that "urgent assistance" was required to attend a burglary, which actually ended not being one at all.
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post Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 23:34
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QUOTE (typefish @ Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 23:24) *
The context was that "urgent assistance" was required to attend a burglary, which actually ended not being one at all.

So was the problem that a burglary doesn't require urgent assistance, or the lack of clairvoyance?


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post Mon, 29 Jan 2018 - 11:35
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 19:24) *
QUOTE (typefish @ Wed, 24 Jan 2018 - 13:26) *
And yet Devon and Cornwall were "fully behind" their officer who tweeted a video of his fellow colleague driving at 140mph on a shout. wink.gif

So am I, if police were capped at say 120, any drug dealer in a stolen high performance car will just think "well, I'll just do 140 down the motorway and the old bill won't follow me..."


Not forgetting that shouts are already called off if it becomes dangerous and that police have the ability to organise forward intervention by various means...
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post Thu, 1 Feb 2018 - 21:55
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QUOTE (typefish @ Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 23:24) *
The context was that "urgent assistance" was required to attend a burglary, which actually ended not being one at all.

I haven't looked up the story but from reading it at the time I thought they caught a couple guys in the act? Might have been enclosed premises rather than burglary, but I was sure they caught someone.


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