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Neil B
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QUOTE (Mad Mick V @ Sun, 21 Oct 2018 - 17:14) *
In my view the PCNs are invalid if they don't state the time of the contravention in the body of the PCN as required by the legislation. Others may have a differing view because the PCNs indicate photographic evidence (which is indeed attached) shows the time--i.e. there is substantial compliance.

On page 5 ! In tiny print.

I lean towards your view.
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Neil B
Posted on: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 23:44


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I can't believe this.
This is an an advice forum. Why ask for advice and then ignore it?
Go back and count the number of long standing members who, emphatically, told you to pay this when you had a chance
and THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DOING SO.

Are you suggesting we don't know what we are talking about?

QUOTE (johnojones @ Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 23:54) *
chaps please understand . It is confusing because although the letters from the council state an excess charge in one and a fixed penalty charge in another, these are wrong. I received a parking charge notice.
You received a parking ticket, a fine, under criminal legislation. Ig does not matter what they call it.

it definitely confirmed is a PCN. i started from the online official .gov website here;
Which you've been told does not apply, is irrelevant, etc. and, if you rely on it, will cost you dearly.

Not forgetting your reason for appeal was TOTAL NONSENSE anyway: You missed the signs you claim are missing.

THERE IS NO RECOURSE AT MAGISTRATES COURT; you are being prosecuted, essentially and only, for failing to cooperate.
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Neil B
Posted on: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 19:56


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QUOTE (Neil B @ Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 20:46) *
Whether what says is compliant I haven't yet checked - as Incandescent suggested.

It isn't compliant, (if we've seen it all?)

Regs same as TMA in England, adjusted for mtc.

From appeals Regs. 3

(e)where the penalty charge notice is served by virtue of regulation 10(1)(a) of the General Provisions Regulations(1), a statement of the effects of paragraph (5) and (6).
(5) The recipient of a penalty charge notice served under regulation 10(1)(a) of the General Provisions Regulations may, by notice in writing to the enforcement authority, request it—

(a)to make available at one of its offices specified by the recipient, free of charge and at a time during normal office hours so specified, for viewing by the recipient or by a representative, the record of the road traffic contravention produced by the approved device pursuant to which the penalty charge was imposed; or
(b)to provide the recipient, free of charge, with such still images from that record as, in the authority’s opinion, establish the road traffic contravention.
(6) Where the recipient of the penalty charge notice makes a request under paragraph (5), the enforcement authority must comply with the request within a reasonable time.



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Neil B
Posted on: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 19:46


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QUOTE (reyko @ Sat, 20 Oct 2018 - 11:11) *
How do I get the video?

Read the PCN ?

Whether what says is compliant I haven't yet checked - as Incandescent suggested.
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Neil B
Posted on: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 - 08:34


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QUOTE (johnojones @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 16:11) *
i will be contesting on the grounds of lack of signage, rightly or wrongly,as a lifelong citizen of this town in question, I feel strongly about the situation knowing it can so easily be rectified. My choice, I might as well try.


No. As others, it is crazy to do so.
Did you pay? I hope so.

Your impending prosecution is nothing at all to do with the parking offence. Rather, simply a failure to furnish details and, probably
to come, failure to pay the fine.
Nothing you've mentioned, from MSE in post #8 has any relevance.

And just to put your mind at rest on this matter you feel so strongly about -
It probably isn't a case of signs being missing; rather, you missing them.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4007327,-...3312!8i6656

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4010782,-...3312!8i6656

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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 20:13


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I'm at a loss to know how to respond and I don't have time to explain it all I'm afraid.

I can only suggest you follow the recommendation of Incandescent in post #6.
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 20:09


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QUOTE (Claygate1 @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 20:46) *
I was turning left at the end of the road and to me this left lane looked clear (not a bus lane) so I didn’t see any reason not to.

I'll be direct.
I asked because, ultimately, an adjudicator might ask the same.
If you gave the same answer and the adjudicator looked at Streetview, what would be their reaction? I see no left turn for some
considerable distance.

Wait to see others' opinions.
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 19:42


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Reason to change lanes early was ---?
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 19:25


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QUOTE (Steven225 @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 18:33) *
I moved on 28th may - 3rd June 18 and i updated my log book straight after moving.

and your new V5 has what date? - the 'docref' date.

Time is very short but it would be good if you found out exactly when the Council sent out the PCN.

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Without such facts I can't think what you were intending putting in the PE2.
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 18:07


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QUOTE (CW1811 @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 18:39) *
I received that Charge Certificate 16/10.

So, presumably having read it, you realise the minimum timescale involved.
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Neil B
Posted on: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 - 08:03


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QUOTE (CW1811 @ Wed, 17 Oct 2018 - 08:05) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 17:59) *
QUOTE (CW1811 @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 17:39) *
I was just wanting some advice as to how to proceed with getting said counter-signature from the county court i.e. who/where to contact, is there a standard procedure, etc.

It's a routine counter service, normally by appointment these days, which obs you can't make yet.

and the date of the CC was?



Okay, thank you. So just contact the local county court when I receive the order for recovery, I presume? I received it yesterday (16/10) and the date of service is today (17/10).

Received what? The Charge Cert or Orde fr ?
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Neil B
Posted on: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 16:59


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QUOTE (CW1811 @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 17:39) *
I was just wanting some advice as to how to proceed with getting said counter-signature from the county court i.e. who/where to contact, is there a standard procedure, etc.

It's a routine counter service, normally by appointment these days, which obs you can't make yet.

and the date of the CC was?
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Neil B
Posted on: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 09:05


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QUOTE (retrospective324 @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 09:44) *
It seems to me that this space is obviously designed as a money spinner for the council by being confusing, especially with different times shown at different sides of the street.

It's necessary, to provide parking for the market traders, not designed to confuse.

Show all the docs.
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Neil B
Posted on: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 08:59


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QUOTE (PalecKatarina @ Tue, 16 Oct 2018 - 01:06) *
Am sending what I can for now, that GSV will take me a while I suppose, but most important bits I will send in attachment.

I am struggling to send over the rest, but will look into it...

Don't try to attach.
You need to use an external image hosting site; upload there and the 'share' the images by pasting the BB codes
into a reply here.
Try Flickr or Imgur - use BB codes. Or Tinypic - use [IMG] codes.

There are other sites to use.

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No GSV is not difficult.
Just Google the location to bring up a map, then drag the little yellow man (bottom right) to the exact
position to bring up a street view.

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I already understand your point about the sms but we do need the paperwork.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:01


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QUOTE (czaka1 @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:34) *
Don't know exact PCN dates yet as couldn't reach traffic enforcement
my wife thinks they will be for driving the bus line in January in Colchester high street

The amounts match a bus lane.

Can you see any dates, using the references, on the Council website?
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:59


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QUOTE (Bill j @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:50) *
Yes sorry. The hire car reg

Ok, good.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:46


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QUOTE (Bill j @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:38) *
When my PCN arrives do you think i have a appeal case from the pictures provided?

Sorry, I realise that's your question but there's no ruxh, we'll get to it.

BUT
What is this?
QUOTE (Bill j @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:22) *
So i can log onto the website with my car registration...

With my car information.

The hire car- not your car?
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:20


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QUOTE (Bill j @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 22:13) *
Im asking if i can appeal against the parking.

YOU can't do anything. You don't have a PCN yet.

Sorry, I don't have the patience tonight: I'm sure others will explain.



Hang on.
Is the address Enterprise have for you 100% correct?
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:10


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You don't have a PCN (yet).

Read the first main paragraph.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 20:55


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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 20:09) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 20:08) *
The 8 rather than 8 am has been adjudicated on before and won, just not sure that would be Newham's case

I think the real problem is that regardless of the rights or wrongs of the case, the adjudicator is going to see a dodgy permit and refuse the appeal.

There have been some peculiar adjudications and failures by Newham to present appropriate evidence.
One case on forum, clearly a re-used vp, made it past the adjudicator.

Newham shout " 'tis so!" and some adjudicators have said 'well I can't see it'. All Newham had to do was show an
appropriately adjusted image (that's what I do for all of them and it takes 30 seconds)
Albeit, in this case, that's hardly necessary -- ah, but what pics do they have - unlikely as clear as the one posted.

I gurss it's possible that an adjudicator, unimpressed with the draconian tow (Mick & PMB), might choose to blink at the wrong moment?
Or even decide the greater of two evils?
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Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 20:16


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QUOTE (Bill j @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 21:04) *
Sorry it is £130.

I dont have any paperwork didnt have the fine on my windowscreen when returning to car.

Only found out today because enterprise sent me a letter to say they charged me £35 admin for the fine.
The letter gave my council refrence code. It goes to £195 next week

No. Not making sense yet.

Show us the letter.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 17:43


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QUOTE (Enceladus @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 17:28) *
Also it's an 'All Day' as opposed to a '24 Hour' permit. Valid until midnight on the marked date. So it shouldn't matter what time it says. It must always have been within the time.

I can see most of us would think so but, in response to enquiries made by a local Councillor, Newham confirmed they covered 24 hours.

That said, I've always been dubious about it myself and wonder if it's written anywhere in TMOs or other
relevant document?

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Having said I have no sympathy for the apparent 'cheating', we mustn't lose sight of the fact a valid res permit
was also in play, just not displayed.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 14:43


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I have no sympathy as this re-use cheating seems a widespread local disease.

But I'm equally miffed with the way Newham are fighting it.
QUOTE (Enceladus @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 15:01) *
An all zone visitor permit was displayed. Arrival time "8" and completed for 20 Sep 2018
Zone hours are 8:00am to 18:30pm, Mon-Sat.
09:38 PCN issued, code 19.

The 24 hours could start at 8am or 8pm, hence their secondary reasoning.
But they rely on a presumption of future contravention, i.e. that the user will attempt to park
for 36 hours.
But at the time PCN was issued, that had not yet happend: The vehicle cannot be in contravention at 9.38am on that score.

It could only be in contravention at 8.01am on 21st and only if noted present before 8pm 20th.

Newham should not be penalising for something someone might do.
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Neil B
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QUOTE (Enceladus @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 15:01) *
However there is also a scratch on the visitor permit on the number 19.

It appears used 15th and 18th too, just from first look.
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Neil B
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QUOTE (AAAmellow @ Mon, 15 Oct 2018 - 09:37) *
Do I stand on any grounds in requesting Ealing council to cancel this fine via email or post?

On what basis would they cancel it?

And what exactly are you saying to Ealing in your proposed e-mail?
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