Parking charge for not 'displaying valid permit' but one WAS displayed. |
Parking charge for not 'displaying valid permit' but one WAS displayed. |
Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 11:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 22 Sep 2017 Member No.: 94,164 |
Hello. Me again - sorry.
In August a parking charge was placed on a car that I'm the Registered Keeper of, at Elstree and Borehamwood train station, for apparently failing to display a valid permit. The thing is, one *was* displayed and they even included a close up of the valid permit in their photographic evidence. As the RK I ignored all correspondence because of this but now have their debt collectors onto me. It's Indigo Parking Solutions. I'm very confused! I've e mailed the debt collectors, ZZPS I think they're called, and told them to refer it back to their client, but what else can I do? I'm stumped by the fact they took a picture of the valid permit (which I'm assuming is the payment ticket issued by the machine)! Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks. This post has been edited by Trixie2: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 - 12:53 |
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Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 16:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
If it's your own case then do not hijack another thread. It's in the Rules at the top.
This post has been edited by ostell: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 16:11 |
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Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 17:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 13 Feb 2018 Member No.: 96,509 |
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Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 19:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 22 Sep 2017 Member No.: 94,164 |
Hello all. I received this, this morning. Who are they? QDR or Wright Hassle?
I can't be arsed to get into regular contact with them. Is there a strong 'f off now' letter I can send them? Have they been known to go to court on non-relevant land? TIA. |
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Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 19:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
You've already warned QDR of the consequences if they continue with demands
Carry out the threat in your own time |
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Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 20:01
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 22 Sep 2017 Member No.: 94,164 |
Thanks. So just ignore for now?
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Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 21:01
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
Interesting that they say the registered keeper is liable under the byelaws but the keeper can authorise the driver. Perhaps you could write back to them and ask them to point out which specific byelaw they believe specifies this.
This post has been edited by ostell: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 21:02 |
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Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 21:29
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 22 Sep 2017 Member No.: 94,164 |
I take it there's no provision in the Byelaws that holds the keeper liable then?
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Sat, 24 Feb 2018 - 21:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
No part can do so. The owner maybe but this would be ultra vires, as the byelaws can only control conduct on the land in question.
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Tue, 27 Feb 2018 - 16:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 22 Sep 2017 Member No.: 94,164 |
OK thanks.
By the way I just noticed Indigo wrote this in one of their letters to me: "The Notice affixed to the car as noted above was an offer to allow you an opportunity to avoid a criminal prosecution. It has not been paid, so further administration and debt recovery charges have now been added. If this offer is not accepted, then our Client may pursue you through the Magistrates Court by way of a private criminal prosecution." This was discussed above. It was an offer to avoid prosecution - I did not accept their offer - they chose not to prosecute within the time-frame. Could they still go to the small claims court nonetheless? |
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Tue, 27 Feb 2018 - 16:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Cannot see how they would have any chance of success
Their letter stated that it was an offer; you didn't accept it By definition there was no contract It would be like a market trader shouting offers to passers-by and taking them to court if they carried on walking |
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Tue, 27 Feb 2018 - 17:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Also, why would there be admin costs added? It was an offer.
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