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Mobile Vans - LTi 20-20 Speedscope, The most commonly used mobile speed camera
Mika
post Wed, 25 Feb 2004 - 09:14
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This link will take you to a page which explains the information that appears on the LTi 20-20 Lastec traffic videos.

UPDATE 21st January 2009

Motorist beats 98mph charge

UPDATE 7th February 2007

MCN has the following.

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Frank Garratt admitted the speed meter can make a host of errors including ‘slip’ error.


UPDATE 12th September

BBC Inside Out broadcast a follow-up program about the accuracy of the LTi 20-20 and a RealPlayer video of the relevant part of the programme is available for download here (38Mb).

There is a lower resolution WMV file available here. (3.68Mb)

There is also an article about this program on the BBC Inside Out Website.

Inside Out – BBC South West: Monday February 28, 2005:

NOTE A 16Mb RealPlayer clip from the programme, can be downloaded from this link.

“Mobile speed cameras are increasingly being used by the police to enforce speed limits, but how accurate are they?

We look at these cameras and see if their claims of accuracy are themselves accurate.

You may also find this recent Wiltshire case of interest - the Crown dropped the charge, rather than disclosing the traffic video.

Watch the video in this case carefully and decide for yourself. Did the motorcycle decelerate from 107 mph to 87 mph, without braking?

You may also find this US case of interest – “Laser Loses a Legal Test

We can also provide the recording as a SVCD, which will play in most DVD players.

The result of the case was as follows:

Guilty of travelling at 107 mph

Disqualified from driving for 28 days

£500 fine and £1000 costs - the prosecution asked for £2000 costs.

The defendant couldn't afford to go to appeal and in any case, at the time, Mr Garrett was the only recognised "expert" on the LTi 20/20 in this country. That may have changed now. icon_wink.gif


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- Mika   Mobile Vans - LTi 20-20 Speedscope   Wed, 25 Feb 2004 - 09:14
- - sjpage   Wow! that to me, proves beyond any doubt that it s...   Wed, 25 Feb 2004 - 14:40
- - Mika   Stef, Yes, we believe that we can prove it, but w...   Wed, 25 Feb 2004 - 14:56
- - The Rookie   Just had a good look, its obvious that after the t...   Tue, 2 Mar 2004 - 13:17
- - dave99   sounds like fun - what exactly is a "mention heari...   Tue, 9 Mar 2004 - 18:06
- - FastShow   Did anyone get a chance to drop in?   Thu, 11 Mar 2004 - 19:28
- - jeffreyarcher   Probably old hat to the experts here, however, jus...   Sat, 13 Mar 2004 - 02:03
- - Boro   That makes interesting reading, how old is it? Has...   Tue, 16 Mar 2004 - 15:59
- - cas   any update to this?   Wed, 17 Mar 2004 - 16:59
- - Mika   Hi, The LTi 20-20 appeal is listed at Cardiff Cro...   Wed, 17 Mar 2004 - 17:34
- - cas   Mika - if the appeal goes the wrong way, does that...   Wed, 17 Mar 2004 - 17:57
- - Kevin Green   LTi 20-20 Speedscope   Thu, 8 Apr 2004 - 00:32
- - cas   Kevin did you get it at least 7 days before trial?   Thu, 8 Apr 2004 - 12:29
- - Kevin Green   Yes, I phoned the CPS myself and they tried to se...   Thu, 8 Apr 2004 - 12:47
- - Traffic Cop   Kevin Green posted The only way you are going to ...   Sat, 10 Apr 2004 - 10:45
- - Mika   Traffic Cop, Whilst I agree that in theory the AC...   Sat, 10 Apr 2004 - 11:35
- - Kevin Green   Traffic Cop!   Sat, 10 Apr 2004 - 12:54
- - davleigh   I hope you don't mean this... http://www.orange-pa...   Mon, 12 Apr 2004 - 19:24
- - jeffreyarcher   QUOTE (davleigh)I hope you don't mean this...http:...   Mon, 12 Apr 2004 - 21:44
- - Kevin Green   Sorry, I certainly don't and the only reason we ha...   Mon, 12 Apr 2004 - 22:09
- - TonyOut   QUOTE http://www.orange-pages.fsnet.co.uk Surreal!   Mon, 12 Apr 2004 - 22:10
- - Kevin Green   APPEAL against the Magistrates not just the LTI2020   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 10:08
- - Mika   Kev, We can discuss your ideas tomorrow, and your...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 10:17
- - Kevin Green   Hi Mika, As is expected of a good old Welshman, m...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 11:05
- - Mika   Kev, You may be able to ask “the Copper in the ...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 11:13
- - Kevin Green   Look forward to it. K   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 11:43
- - Mika   Kev, The defendant in the case has just informed ...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 12:10
- - Kevin Green   Crown Court Appeal!   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 13:55
- - Fireblade   Not feeling himself   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 - 20:31
- - Kevin Green   Cannot ACCEDE to your request for a copy of the entire tape!   Thu, 29 Apr 2004 - 12:01
- - Captain A   "I will consider your request further if you confi...   Fri, 30 Apr 2004 - 09:05
- - Kevin Green   They WON'T Get away with it!   Fri, 30 Apr 2004 - 09:30
- - Mika   Hi Kev, You may also wish to politely remind the ...   Fri, 30 Apr 2004 - 10:23
- - Kevin Green   Lti 2020   Fri, 30 Apr 2004 - 14:20
- - Kevin Green   No you can't have tape! I am still not convinced.   Wed, 5 May 2004 - 10:30
- - NigelO   why is it a problem for them to show you a tape th...   Wed, 5 May 2004 - 10:53
- - Mika   Nigel, My guess is that this could be much more s...   Wed, 5 May 2004 - 11:03
- - OU812   QUOTE (Mika)My guess is that this could be much mo...   Wed, 5 May 2004 - 11:18
- - FastShow   The case on PePiPoo with the motorcycle being cloc...   Fri, 7 May 2004 - 23:04
- - Mika   Carl, You may wish to inform Steve that the last ...   Sat, 8 May 2004 - 11:43
- - Homer   Any news? Did the 28 May date go ahead? Sorry if ...   Thu, 3 Jun 2004 - 13:26
- - Kevin Green   This site blocked by web filtering?   Thu, 3 Jun 2004 - 18:17
- - broosta   I'm in the same boat as Homer on this, as my work ...   Fri, 4 Jun 2004 - 11:37
- - Kevin Green   Big Brother   Fri, 4 Jun 2004 - 16:31
- - OU812   Or see if you can access the site via an [anon] Pr...   Mon, 7 Jun 2004 - 14:32
- - thamesvalley   Just in case you didnt know what the 2020 looks like ...   Tue, 15 Jun 2004 - 09:31
- - HissingSid   Hi, One reason that they may not wish to release ...   Wed, 16 Jun 2004 - 09:59
- - Mika   Hi Sid, I have just looked in the meaning of the ...   Fri, 18 Jun 2004 - 07:53
- - HissingSid   Hi Mika, Sorry I'm up in North Yorkshire and can'...   Fri, 18 Jun 2004 - 09:19
- - DW190   POSSIBLE VOLUNTEER EXPERT WITNESS Sit Sit Fetch I...   Sun, 20 Jun 2004 - 23:08
- - Glacier2   Mika, Sign Him Up Now!   Mon, 21 Jun 2004 - 09:45
- - Homer   Re: This site blocked by web filtering?   Thu, 24 Jun 2004 - 20:50
- - ianfusa   Getting rid of error messages   Fri, 6 Aug 2004 - 08:39
- - sjpage   May be of some use or interest Some states limit ...   Wed, 11 Aug 2004 - 09:21
- - Mika   Hi all, Do you think there's any chance that they...   Fri, 27 Aug 2004 - 17:10
- - DW190   QUOTE West Yorkshire Police declined to comment. ...   Fri, 27 Aug 2004 - 18:56
- - Mika   Halleluiah, Guess what? We have e-mail about t...   Wed, 1 Sep 2004 - 10:05
- - Bob_Sprocket   Hi Mika, Is there any way that we can get evidenc...   Wed, 1 Sep 2004 - 11:53
- - matt1133   in my opinion they will just claim that maybe that...   Wed, 1 Sep 2004 - 14:25
- - anton   You could write to the CPS and ask for all LTi 20-...   Wed, 1 Sep 2004 - 15:23
- - Mika   Chaps, I don’t think that you will need any add...   Fri, 3 Sep 2004 - 08:07
- - Andy L   Isn't this a good case for a HRA redress?? Andy   Fri, 3 Sep 2004 - 11:00
- - bulletmagnet   QUOTE (Mika)Chaps, I don’t think that you will ...   Fri, 3 Sep 2004 - 16:59
- - Mika   Bulletmagnet, In my opinion, it would be admissib...   Fri, 3 Sep 2004 - 17:23
- - darkness_uk_79   Stoopid question...?   Sat, 4 Sep 2004 - 09:12
- - artisan   ACPO guidelines   Sat, 4 Sep 2004 - 15:20
- - darkness_uk_79   Excellent...   Mon, 6 Sep 2004 - 19:19
- - anton   QUOTE bike video http://pepipoo.com/Case_Files/doc...   Wed, 22 Sep 2004 - 07:18
- - matt1133   can anybody tell me what type of beam the lti 2020...   Thu, 7 Oct 2004 - 13:42
- - Captain A   Matt, in answer to your question: QUOTE In 1995, t...   Thu, 7 Oct 2004 - 16:08
- - matt1133   how much is an LTI 20-20? were the guns used in t...   Thu, 7 Oct 2004 - 16:17
- - Clear Skies   QUOTE (Mika)Bulletmagnet, In my opinion, it would...   Thu, 7 Oct 2004 - 16:39
- - Clear Skies   Re: Just in case you didnt know what the 2020 looks like ...   Tue, 12 Oct 2004 - 10:01
- - eXOBeX   Does rain have a serious impact on the LTI 20-20's...   Thu, 21 Oct 2004 - 17:45
- - Tamara-D   Of course it would! Any light source passing thro...   Thu, 21 Oct 2004 - 18:41
- - Clear Skies   QUOTE (Tamara-D)Of course it would! Any ligh...   Tue, 9 Nov 2004 - 11:03
- - Tamara-D   The only way to find out is to give it a try! ...   Tue, 9 Nov 2004 - 21:28
- - flyin flea   QUOTE (Tamara-D)Of course it would! Any ligh...   Wed, 10 Nov 2004 - 19:33
- - peteturbo   Refraction is when a wave changes direction due to...   Wed, 10 Nov 2004 - 19:55
- - Tamara-D   QUOTE (peteturbo)Refraction is when a wave changes...   Wed, 10 Nov 2004 - 20:02
- - DW190   I don't know if this has been placed elsewere but ...   Tue, 16 Nov 2004 - 01:22
- - bbmaj   Do we know what type of device was in use? The us...   Tue, 16 Nov 2004 - 10:12
- - g_attrill   QUOTE (bbmaj)Do we know what type of device was in...   Tue, 16 Nov 2004 - 12:47
- - flyin flea   Slightly off topic but..... Lti20-20 .... bad for ...   Thu, 18 Nov 2004 - 21:35
- - flopper   Quote:Scammers The equipment is so accurate it can...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 - 02:26
- - Tamara-D   QUOTE (flopper)Quote:Scammers The cameras operate...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 - 10:01
- - MrsMiggins   QUOTE (Tamara-D)So they are also claiming to ...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 - 12:03
- - Captain A   QUOTE The cameras operate effectively in poor ligh...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 - 21:25
- - anton   QUOTE Anyhow, didn't Anton try to get hold of a la...   Thu, 25 Nov 2004 - 18:47
- - Insider   Was it a guy up in our northern cousins patch anto...   Fri, 26 Nov 2004 - 09:08
- - anton   No it was a gps/jammer firm in Huntington. I dont ...   Fri, 26 Nov 2004 - 13:14
- - flyin flea   Ive been ponderin....... We know these things are...   Thu, 2 Dec 2004 - 13:41
- - andypandy   Hi flyin flea I am not that sure they use image s...   Thu, 2 Dec 2004 - 14:15
- - g_attrill   I think it depends on the system - I have seen som...   Thu, 2 Dec 2004 - 15:59
- - Clear Skies   QUOTE (flyin flea) Ive been ponderin....... . Thu...   Thu, 2 Dec 2004 - 16:35
- - flyin flea   speed of light in vacuum= 300,000,000m/s (as defin...   Thu, 2 Dec 2004 - 17:42
- - flyin flea   Ive just sought the opinion of an expert marksman....   Thu, 2 Dec 2004 - 22:40
- - flopper   And that is just one rifle, imagine two bolted t...   Mon, 6 Dec 2004 - 19:48
- - fossil   I am interested in this story and applaud the effo...   Mon, 27 Dec 2004 - 22:21
- - firefly   Hi fossil, More details required. Has your son g...   Mon, 27 Dec 2004 - 22:37
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