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baroudeur
post Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 13:40
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Travelling on the M25 yesterday I approached an overhead gantry with signs showing lane 1 - 60 .... lane 2 - 50 ..... lane 3 - 60 ohmy.gif
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post Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 21:36
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QUOTE (baroudeur @ Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 13:40) *
Travelling on the M25 yesterday I approached an overhead gantry with signs showing lane 1 - 60 .... lane 2 - 50 ..... lane 3 - 60 ohmy.gif

Dashcam footage or it didn't happen... happy.gif

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post Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 07:05
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 21:36) *
Dashcam footage or it didn't happen... happy.gif

Because it can't happen?


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post Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 09:33
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There was also a pic posted showing differing limits posted by, I think, transitman or maybe roythebus some while back.
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 21:36) *
QUOTE (baroudeur @ Thu, 15 Feb 2018 - 13:40) *
Travelling on the M25 yesterday I approached an overhead gantry with signs showing lane 1 - 60 .... lane 2 - 50 ..... lane 3 - 60 ohmy.gif

Dashcam footage or it didn't happen... happy.gif

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No dash cam but I know what I saw! Why would I make it up?
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post Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 18:58
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I think the previous 2 posts are sufficient to confirm it can and dies happen. Churchmouse is mistaken.
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post Sat, 17 Feb 2018 - 17:11
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QUOTE (mickR @ Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 18:58) *
I think the previous 2 posts are sufficient to confirm it can and dies happen. Churchmouse is mistaken.

I realise now that the audible text recognition software you're using doesn't parse emoticons...

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post Mon, 19 Feb 2018 - 10:27
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Sat, 17 Feb 2018 - 17:11) *
QUOTE (mickR @ Fri, 16 Feb 2018 - 18:58) *
I think the previous 2 posts are sufficient to confirm it can and dies happen. Churchmouse is mistaken.

I realise now that the audible text recognition software you're using doesn't parse emoticons...

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Oh it did, it parse'd it as a "smart arse" face biggrin.gif

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post Fri, 16 Mar 2018 - 00:51
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Was just browsing and saw this. It does happen. I’m currently waiting on Highways england to explain themselves after I saw this. Reported weeks ago and no response yet.



https://youtu.be/UntRoxbZQT4

Same gantry, different day



https://youtu.be/x4D2yNnKUnI
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post Fri, 16 Mar 2018 - 22:50
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I think anyone who has driven on the M25 regularly seen it happen. I have seen (60) (20) (60).

I have spoken to a couple of the people with HE and they have basically said the software was very advanced when it was introduced in the 1990s but now it has aged and been hacked around by so many different people that it is very difficult to control.

This is meant to be an image from 2015 - SHE HAS A SODDING 1990 TV ON HER DESK! - how did that happen.

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You said it yourself - they bought that camera system in the 90s, that's the kind of monitor it came with. Entirely consistent with the rubbish image quality you can see on the HE website (for the limited number of cameras that ever seem to be functional, anyway).


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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Fri, 16 Mar 2018 - 22:50) *
SHE HAS A SODDING 1990 TV ON HER DESK! - how did that happen.


Would it make any difference if it had been bought from PC World last week?


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QUOTE (peterguk @ Sat, 17 Mar 2018 - 11:32) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Fri, 16 Mar 2018 - 22:50) *
SHE HAS A SODDING 1990 TV ON HER DESK! - how did that happen.


Would it make any difference if it had been bought from PC World last week?

Yes. That would have required the use of a time machine of some sort.

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QUOTE (peterguk @ Sat, 17 Mar 2018 - 11:32) *
Would it make any difference if it had been bought from PC World last week?

In my experience you can tell at a glance how reliable an organisation's IT systems are likely to be by how much obsolete equipment they have around. And I talk working for an NHS Trust that still uses XP computers and Telnet connections to run large swathes of infrastructure. Nothing works properly and not a week goes by without at least one critial system being down for a number of hours.

Mrs NML meanwhile works for a large publisher. Everything up to date and downtime just doesn't exist.

The rubbish IT is also why the NHS clings to fax machines, paper notes and Microfiche.
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post Sun, 18 Mar 2018 - 01:13
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sat, 17 Mar 2018 - 22:43) *
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Would it make any difference if it had been bought from PC World last week?

In my experience you can tell at a glance how reliable an organisation's IT systems are likely to be by how much obsolete equipment they have around. And I talk working for an NHS Trust that still uses XP computers and Telnet connections to run large swathes of infrastructure. Nothing works properly and not a week goes by without at least one critial system being down for a number of hours.

Mrs NML meanwhile works for a large publisher. Everything up to date and downtime just doesn't exist.

The rubbish IT is also why the NHS clings to fax machines, paper notes and Microfiche.

Bollocks. You're talking about embedded IT in specialist systems here, not commodity PCs. Much like HE in this case, your NHS Trust will be operating a range of equipment (such as NMR scanners) that happens to incorporate PCs as part of the system and are subject to strict configuration control as part of their regulatory approval, and as a result can't be updated willy-nilly to more recent OS versions. The risk is quite manageable, as long as some prat doesn't connect it to a wider network. This isn't unusual; for example there's a very good chance that the cashpoints you use week in and week out run on an embedded version of Windows XP!


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QUOTE (Fredd @ Sun, 18 Mar 2018 - 01:13) *
Bollocks. You're talking about embedded IT in specialist systems here, not commodity PCs. Much like HE in this case, your NHS Trust will be operating a range of equipment (such as NMR scanners) that happens to incorporate PCs as part of the system and are subject to strict configuration control as part of their regulatory approval, and as a result can't be updated willy-nilly to more recent OS versions. The risk is quite manageable, as long as some prat doesn't connect it to a wider network. This isn't unusual; for example there's a very good chance that the cashpoints you use week in and week out run on an embedded version of Windows XP!

Ultimately everything is connected to an internal network even if it is firewalled. And firewalls aren't infallible, especially protecting devices run on something like Windows CE embedded which few sysadmins today will have experience working on.

Anyway in true NHS style they're meant to be changing this year to leasing all their desktops and laptops, presumably from a company who will want remote access and will be doing it all as cheaply as possible. What could go wrong...

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