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[NIP Wizard] 14 day query
western57
post Wed, 14 Nov 2018 - 20:58
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - October 2018
Date of the NIP: - 21 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 22 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A417 Dartley Bottom, Near Daglingworth, Duntisbourne Rouse, Glous
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - Company car driver
How many current points do you have? - 3
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The offence was on the 16/10/18, the camera enforcement until wrote to my compnay on the 6/11/18 my company received the letter on the 7/11/18, they supplied my details and i received a letter to my home address on the 13/11/18.
The intial letter to my company was created by the camera enforcement unit 14 days after the offence happened.
I wil write to the enforcement unit and advise of these date errors.
does anyone have a standard letter template to use ?


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - No
Is the NIP addressed to you personally? - Yes
Although you are not the Registered Keeper, were you the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 20:58:15 +0000
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post Wed, 14 Nov 2018 - 21:04
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Does the company hold the v5? (And have you seen it?)

There's quite often a lease firm first...

QUOTE (western57 @ Wed, 14 Nov 2018 - 20:58) *
I will write to the enforcement unit and advise of these date errors.

Regardless, the request for the driver identity is still valid even if the NIP was 'late'.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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The Rookie
post Wed, 14 Nov 2018 - 21:04
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Are the company the registered keeper, odds on they are not but a finance/lease company are and they will have got the first NIP, check before sending anything. Worth looking at the number plates as many financing companies often put their names on (such as black horse). Also of course if the car is new the details may not have been on the system at the time.

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