PCN NEVER RECEIVED - WESTMINISTER COUNCIL!, No Right Turn PCN! |
PCN NEVER RECEIVED - WESTMINISTER COUNCIL!, No Right Turn PCN! |
Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 10:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Hi all,
I'm in need of some help! I received a charge certificate from Westminster Council yesterday asking for £195!!!!! This is ridiculous as I never received the initial PCN. This has left in in a right state as it doesn't even supply and details about making a challenge, so i'm screwed. How do I go about writing a letter stating I never received the initial letter or should I try and find the money to pay? Also, when looking at the images online today, I don't remember the no right no at the John Islip junction being visible? Please help Thanks Marcus |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 10:36
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
Press "report" and ask a mod. to move your post to the correct forum.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 10:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
thanks, which forum would be best suited
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 10:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
thanks, which forum would be best suited Try the one for Council PCNs. -------------------- |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 11:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 18 Apr 2016 Member No.: 83,810 |
Hi,
Is the car concerned registered to you? Get your V5C out. Is the name and address EXACTLY correct? What is the DOC REF DATE at bottom of page 2? This looks like the no right turn in question: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4896739,-0....3312!8i6656 This post has been edited by ohnoes: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 11:19 -------------------- PCNs sucessfully contested with the help of this forum:
Newham 1/1 Enfield 1/1 Hackney 3/4 Ealing 0/1 LCC 1/1 CoL 1/1 PPC successfully contested with the help of this forum: UKPC 1/1 TPS 1/1 ECP 0/1 Overall success rate getting tickets overturned: 75% |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 11:30
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,200 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
You need "Council Parking Tickets & Clamping and Decriminalised Notices" the next forum down in the list from this one.
I've asked a Mod to move it for you. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 11:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Hi Ohnoes,
The car is a lease vehicle, so i'm not the registered owner, does this matter? |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 12:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,270 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Hi Ohnoes, The car is a lease vehicle, so i'm not the registered owner, does this matter? And the Charge Certificate was addressed to who? -------------------- |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 12:11
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Myself
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 12:34
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,270 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Myself There is a straightforward solution to reset but we need to clear this up first. You are not RK but have a Notice in your name. What arrangements are there with the lease co when you incur a PCN? It seems they've formally transferred liability to you but I'm not sure how. It can normally only be done for vehicles 'hired' for a period less than 6 months. (I think). -------------------- |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 12:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
yes not the RK but have the lease for 3 years.
Any PCN's or notices are directed to myself to settle |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 12:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,270 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Any PCN's or notices are directed to myself to settle I asked who it was addressed to and you answered 'you'. Better worded, whose name is on the Notice, under the piece of paper? -------------------- |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 12:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Sorry Neil, the PCN is addressed to me.
There is a delay in me receiving these as the Council would reach out to the owner Volkswagen Finance and in turn they would then give my details as the lease owner |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,270 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Volkswagen Finance and in turn they would then give my details as the lease owner and I don't think they can but we'll argue about that later. You now just wait for the next Notice, 'Order of Recovery' and make a Statutory Declaration to the effect 'no PCN received'. The matter will be reset and a new PCN issued. Bring that here. Let us know if you don't receive the OfR by the end of the month. Is that CC dated 7/1 ? Image is hard to make out. -------------------- |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:10
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Yes dated 07/01, can I not just contest this one stating the original was never received?
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Member No.: 11,319 |
Sorry Neil, the PCN is addressed to me. There is a delay in me receiving these as the Council would reach out to the owner Volkswagen Finance and in turn they would then give my details as the lease owner AFAI liability cannot be transferred where a vehicle is hired/leased for more than 6 months. Follow the advice given and see whether a pcn is eventually issued to you. It will be interesting if it is! This post has been edited by spaceman: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:20 |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
thanks spaceman, however the PCN was issued to me in my name and address
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:25
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29,270 Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Member No.: 16,671 |
Yes dated 07/01, can I not just contest this one stating the original was never received? Doing that, stepping out of process, nearly always throws a spanner in the works. -------------------- |
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 13:43
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Ok thanks as my wife is worried about it going to a debt recovery agent
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Thu, 10 Jan 2019 - 14:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 10 Jan 2019 Member No.: 101,819 |
Can anyone help or provide a template for a letter please
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