Speed Awareness Course Refused |
Speed Awareness Course Refused |
Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 10:59
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 20 Jul 2018 Member No.: 98,990 |
I have been denied the chance to do a SAC (Speed Awareness Course) after receiving a speeding ticket because I didn't reply to the letter in time, but the letter was sent to the wrong address. Meaning I wasn't aware of the letter until it was forwarded to my address. I don't want 3 points and want to take the SAC, but speaking with the police didn't yield a positive outcome. How can I redeem my right to take the SAC, if at all possible?
I don't mind paying the fixed penalty as Im aware that I was in the wrong but it isn't my fault that I didn't respond in time. |
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 11:15
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
You can't redeem a right you don't have!
Unless you can convince the Police its an injustice you will just have to take the FPN, if you got to 4 months after the offence before you replied (for whatever reason) then the course option is gone. If it wasn't your fault, who's was it? -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 11:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
How can I redeem my right to take the SAC, if at all possible? There is no right to a SAC. -------------------- Moderator
Any comments made do not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon. No lawyer/client relationship should be assumed nor should any duty of care be owed. |
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 11:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
Try writing a letter, provided you are not now more than four months after the offence, it may be read by a different officer and yield a different result. Grovel a bit and admit it is all your fault!
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 12:55
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,746 Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Member No.: 23,623 |
The difficulty you face is that the course has to be accepted and taken within six months of the offence. If you fail to take up the offer and complete the course in that time, the police cannot start court proceedings against you. That is why there is a cut-off (usually of about four months) after which the course will not be offered.
I don't want 3 points... But I don't mind paying the fixed penalty.... If you pay a fixed penalty (£100) you will also receive three points. As well as that there is a similar cut-off after which a Fixed Penalty will not be offered (for the same reason) as there is for the Course. You don't mention whose fault you believe it was or why you did not receive the letter. but unfortunately it doesn't matter. As Logician suggests, you could try a grovelling letter to the ticket office and that may succeed (depending very much on how long ago the offence was) but don't hold your breath. This post has been edited by NewJudge: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 12:58 |
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 12:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
The difficulty you face is that the course has to be accepted and taken within six months of the offence. I thought it was 4 months, not 6 months. -------------------- |
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 17:45
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,746 Joined: 29 Oct 2008 Member No.: 23,623 |
Yes, I didn't really make myself very clear, Peter.
What I tried to explain was that, since court action must be started within six months the "cut off" for offering a course or fixed penalty is around four months. This is obviously to give the police/ticket office a bit of leeway and to avoid them being unable to take action against drivers who simply ignore the offers. |
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Fri, 20 Jul 2018 - 22:47
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,306 Joined: 4 Mar 2017 Member No.: 90,659 |
Remembering into the dim and distant past I think with my course there were fairly strong time limits on booking the course, not being late for the course, and completing the rubbish online learning afterwards as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they added up to less than two months.
For the OP, speed awareness courses have no basis in law so unfortunately unlike say a court hearing you have no legal right to one. Unfortunately due to intransigence and/or restrictions on their online booking system it is unheard of for them to break their own rules. If it's any consolation if you currently have a clean licence three points is unlikely to make much of a difference to your insurance. And when you are elderly you can still lie and say you've "never had so much as a parking ticket", as is obligatory if you are over 70. |
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Mon, 23 Jul 2018 - 10:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 12 Jan 2013 Member No.: 59,321 |
........I didn't reply to the letter in time, but the letter was sent to the wrong address. Meaning I wasn't aware of the letter until it was forwarded to my address. OP really needs to expand on the reason for the letter going to the wrong address. Was it the address the car was registered at? Was the car newley purchased around the time and it went to the previous owner? Has the OP moved and ommited updating their V5? I'm guessing it wasn't incorrectly addressed or how would the recipient know where to forward it to? |
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Mon, 23 Jul 2018 - 10:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Unless 'forwarding' actually means 'a new one sent' which is the same parlance we have on here quite often.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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