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Kierdo7
post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:33
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Have court soon for a dangerous driving charge. I have 8 points just now, what happened i was driving home one night 2 police where ahead of me in a unmarked van which i overtook as it was 1 in morning and road was clear and to overtake i was doing around 60 in a 50 zone the police then continued to follow me and claimed to be going 80mph and unable to catch me which is untrue. Eventually 5minutes later turning into my street where i stay the police put on there sirens and i stopped immediately a was met with a abusive officer when i got out my car who said he was going to take my ******* motor off me. They then charged me with dangerous driving and wrote on the statement i was driving on wrong side of road once they where chasing me, they were going 80 and couldn't catch me, they thought i was under influence on drugs and alcohol then breathalysed me which read 0 and then allowed me to drive off. I have my word and 4 witnesses in my car against 2 police. As well as the dangerous charge they have also charged me with careless driving. My lawyer reccomends trying to get it down to careless only before court but i feel like contesting the whole thing what should i do ?
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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:36
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Listen to your lawyer.


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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:53
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Ok do you reckon it is too much of risk going against the dangerous charge even though the police didnt have speed gun or video evidence and i have 4 witnesses ?
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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:55
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What is it you did that led them to the charge of dangerous?
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Kierdo7
post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:57
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Honestly dont no why they charged with dangerous when i got pulled over i thought it was just routine stop and check ! There statement is packed with lies to back up the dangerous charge such as my speed and i was on wrong side of road etc
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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:58
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Whats the age group of the people in your car?
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glasgow_bhoy
post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 20:59
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This sounds like Scotland where cops love sticking the word dangerous to anything.

Sadly, the courts also seem enthusiastic about prosecuting it, and and more likely to agree to dropping to careless rather than find you not guilty of dangerous.

However, I've noticed your on 8 points, and careless driving up here tends to be points heavy- ie I've not heard of people walking away with less than 4, which would push you into a totting min 6 month ban. With that in mind, dangerous driving would be a minimum years ban, so you might want to speak with a specialist road traffic lawyer rather than a local jack of all trades type.

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Kierdo7
post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 21:00
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Age group ranges from 18 to 24 which i reckon May have contributed to me getting stopped in first place and also my car which the office said i was a young boy whos care was too ******* good for him

Ye was glasgow
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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 21:02
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I already knew your age group.Sad but its the way it is.

Long and short of it,is your going to end up taking the careless and be grateful.
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Kierdo7
post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 21:03
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Ok thanks , just dont have much time now as i have to appear at court tomorrow and trial starts next friday
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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 21:07
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When you get your licence back,get a car that doesnt attract attention,and even more important learn how to pass the so called attitude test.
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post Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 22:29
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QUOTE (fedup2 @ Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 21:02) *
I already knew your age group.Sad but its the way it is.

Long and short of it,is your going to end up taking the careless and be grateful.

i think we all knew what the answer was before it was posted, that said I got a dangerous driving change from Strathclyde police for having a box on my passenger seat so they can sometimes be over zealous to meet their new targets. I got mine thrown out by the PF
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Kierdo7
post Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 19:06
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7 points taking me to 15 banned for 6 months and 500 fine
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southpaw82
post Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 19:24
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Presumably for careless driving? What was the substance of the charge in the end?


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post Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 19:40
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QUOTE (Kierdo7 @ Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 19:06) *
7 points taking me to 15 banned for 6 months and 500 fine


Was that a G or NG plea?


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Kierdo7
post Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 23:13
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My lawyer got it down to careless driving and avoided dangerous driving before going into court so i pleaded guilty to careless and got 7 points even though i didnt agree with the careless charge was advised best course of action to plead guilty just to careless
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post Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 23:29
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QUOTE (Kieran_e1 @ Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 22:29) *
I got a dangerous driving charge ... for having a box on my passenger seat


I'm sure there was a tiny bit more to the story. rolleyes.gif


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post Sat, 1 Nov 2014 - 08:20
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QUOTE (Kierdo7 @ Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 20:06) *
7 points taking me to 15 banned for 6 months and 500 fine




I assume you were banned for 6 months for totting,if thats the case would the points not be Zero'd? The endorsements will still be there but not the points??
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post Sat, 1 Nov 2014 - 09:49
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Fri, 31 Oct 2014 - 23:29) *
QUOTE (Kieran_e1 @ Thu, 30 Oct 2014 - 22:29) *
I got a dangerous driving charge ... for having a box on my passenger seat


I'm sure there was a tiny bit more to the story. rolleyes.gif

i swear to you on the lives of my future children and everyone i care about in life that i'd travelled a few hundred yards from my office car park. pulled over and given a caution for having a medium sized i.e. not above the window line box on my passenger seat.

0.1 of a mile according to google street view from the start of my journey to where i parked

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/62+Hamilt...5.7881586?hl=en
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crashdetective
post Sat, 1 Nov 2014 - 12:06
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Let me get this right - you were charged with dangerous driving for having a box on the passenger seat, but it was bartered down to a without due care of which you accepted?

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