PCN For Stopping at Liverpool airport, Threads merged Options

[Kram45]

Hi all , Ive done a bit of research on the JLA PCN A lot of the letters are quite old and I was wondering if eveything is still the same as the post from 2013-14-15-16 ie has anything changed which gives VCS more power ., Does anyone know if any new laws etc have been past at all . A lot of what Ive read relate to bylaws ??? I have until the 30th to get an appeal in or do I just simply send them a letter saying I never agreed to the terms and conditions they are saying I breached . .

This post has been edited by Kram45: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 - 18:57

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[nosferatu1001]

Not a hope of this hitting court

I would send the "what a crock of a LBA this is, send a proper one you idiots" letter from MSE...

[bama]

Last I looked VCS was listed as a Dormant Company

[Kram45]

Thanks guys , I will take your advice and see where it goes next .

[Chijiki]

Last I looked VCS was listed as a Dormant Company

Don't know where you looked, but it may be a good idea to look again.

VCS still seem to be very active.

[bama]

You are correct. apols
I snafu'd it with
V.C.S. CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LIMITED
Company number 02638134

[Kram45]

Thanks guys , I will take your advice and see where it goes next .

Hi Folks , So it has finally arrived "Letter Of Claim" From BW Legal along with Pre Action Protocol. My Question is do I Fill it in and send it back or still do nothing as I have since my first initial contact with VCS after the said offence in Nov 16 expaining why i dont owe the debt. I Am also thinking of contacting DVLA asking on what grounds VCS obtained my details . Any help would be much appreciated.

[nosferatu1001]

No, you must respond

MSE forum, have a look for the very very long response. Pretty sure YOUR BW letter does not comply with the NEW PAP valid 01.10.2017 onwards.

[freddy1]

suggest reading this thread , it is a couple of weeks in front of yours

read carefully to understand

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=116961

[Kram45]

No, you must respond

MSE forum, have a look for the very very long response. Pretty sure YOUR BW letter does not comply with the NEW PAP valid 01.10.2017 onwards.

Just had a look at websters post and the PAP is exactly the same as this , Annex 1 information sheet and reply form only, Do they need to send out all 17 pages to comply with the new PAP 01/10/17

[nosferatu1001]

They have to send out full details of their claim, just go to the MSE forum and use the long “crap lba” response, checking it applies.

[Umkomaas]

I’m starting to wonder whether this is the commencement of a strategy similar to that of CEL. Issue enough claims, those that ignore proceed to default CCJs, those who invest the time and effort to produce a credible defence will see a discontinuation, but still taken right up to the wire, to test who blinks first.

If formal court papers are issued, a solid counterclaim will establish their resolve - and legitimacy!

[Redivi]

It's quite possible that it's a low cost, high pressure debt collection tactic
The Particulars of Claim in the other thread look like a template that only requires the insertion of details in a couple of sentences.

It only needs about one in four targets to pay up when the court papers arrive to make the exercise profitable

I'm helping somebody who could counter-claim for harassment if BWL push their luck
VCS and BWL have been told several times that they know he has no liability because the photographs show a female driver that clearly isn't himself

This post has been edited by Redivi: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 - 19:03

[Jlc]

Getting in before the parking bill ascends...

[kommando]

Or all the threads telling everyone to ignore this scam have knocked their income so badly the monthly fee they pay the airport to run the scam is too high.

[freddy1]

at present , maybe 50% pay up not knowing , with letters before court action and posabley paying £25 to issue a court claim , £27.50 (£25 + 50p template letter) may just raise the 50% to a lucrative 80-90%

as there is one other case reported on this forum , which is far in advance of this one , it also has forum/BMPA backing , lets see if they push this or just back down when challenged

This post has been edited by freddy1: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 - 21:34

[Kram45]

Thanks guys , I will just send back this form with a Tick in Box D & Box i , and I will keep an eye on the other case , See what happens .

[Kram45]

Thanks guys , I will just send back this form with a Tick in Box D & Box i , and I will keep an eye on the other case , See what happens .

What do you think the chances would be if VCS reckon they know who the driver was ? . I made a stupid mistake back in Nov 16. I said that I didnt see any signs probably because of the weather it was Dark, Misty, and Torrential rain . Any thoughts on which way to persue this .

[freddy1]

the BPMA have suggested that if you have named yourself (removing POFa) then to pay up


however POFa does not apply on this land


maybe they know something we dont , maybe they dont wont a fight

who knows , they have suggested that they are not interested and to use help from this forum

[Jlc]

If the driver has been named then PoFA is irrelevant regardless of the status of the land.

[freddy1]

however the status of the land is? this is a case of trespassing (not parking) , ie doing things not allowed by the notice boards etc , as such it should be JLA bringing this charge NOT VCS