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post Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 16:08
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HI

Quite shocked to receive a parking ticket in the post. The driver parked for 77 mins, 17 over the one hour limit. I rang the restaurant and they said there are notices up. I understand that they need to monitor parking because they are near Heathrow, but I would have thought that the people genuinely eating and drinking should have been allowed to park and I thought that a disabled badge would have given at least 3 hours, the maximum on double yellows?

Also, the driver drove in and out several times before there was parking available, then parked in the disabled spot. Does the camera cancel each time you leave, or could it be judging the vehicle on the wrong entry & exit times?

It's camera evidence on entry and exit. It's £100 or £50 if paid within 14 days, the usual. What are the chances?

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post Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 16:13
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As you are completely aware, becasue your BB booklet clearly tells you this, you have NO special rights on private land. None.

Appeal to MET that 77 min falls within the two seperate grace periods their association REQUIRES them to observe, and they msut cancel the ticket.
Edit your post - i cant recall if MET meet POFA requiremnts, however its not a good idea to tell them who drove. Call them "the driver" as in "the driver parked at McDonalds"
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post Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 16:21
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 17:13) *
i cant recall if MET meet POFA requiremnts

No, they don't...


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 16:27
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 17:13) *
As you are completely aware, becasue your BB booklet clearly tells you this, you have NO special rights on private land. None.

Appeal to MET that 77 min falls within the two seperate grace periods their association REQUIRES them to observe, and they msut cancel the ticket.
Edit your post - i cant recall if MET meet POFA requiremnts, however its not a good idea to tell them who drove. Call them "the driver" as in "the driver parked at McDonalds"


I have edited my post as you suggest, I am aware of BB booklet, but I didn't know McD's had car parks with time limits, I've never seen any where I live? Its not like its a patch of land used as a car park, it's a restaurant facility, I just expected that if one is eating there, the parking would be included.

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post Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 17:39
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You can still deduce who was driving in the first post.

The BB should show a disability and they should make extra allowances for that, but they can't see a BB with an ANPR camera.

So post up the Notice to Keeper that you received, suitably redacted but leave dates.
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post Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 19:30
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Search for my Met Parking cases at Gatwick. All winners!

If this is Peggy Bedford, check whether the vehicle was actually parked in McD's. The boundary between them and the garage may be crucial to deciding if the vehicle was actually present!


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post Fri, 28 Sep 2018 - 10:00
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QUOTE (ostell @ Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 18:39) *
You can still deduce who was driving in the first post.

The BB should show a disability and they should make extra allowances for that, but they can't see a BB with an ANPR camera.

So post up the Notice to Keeper that you received, suitably redacted but leave dates.


Ok I will try that when I get home, I did it previously somehow, but I can't remember the site that generates the links, please may I have a reminder of the sites available? I have only iPad & iPhone to work with not computer, if that makes a difference?

I have edited post again & added question about going in & out several times.

Many thanks.

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post Fri, 28 Sep 2018 - 10:23
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QUOTE (cabbyman @ Thu, 27 Sep 2018 - 20:30) *
Search for my Met Parking cases at Gatwick. All winners!

If this is Peggy Bedford, check whether the vehicle was actually parked in McD's. The boundary between them and the garage may be crucial to deciding if the vehicle was actually present!



I will do, it is not PD, the vehicle was parked in the disabled space to the left nearest to the front door of McD's, I assume this is their car park? It is free parking for one hour I assume having got the ticket, but I have not been given a picture of their notices to see what the conditions are? The driver should have looked, but if they have only ever been to local McD's that don't have such set ups, probably didn't expect it to be so?

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post Mon, 1 Oct 2018 - 22:24
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In fact I can't find the notice, I remember where I put it, so I can't upload it? Something else to panic about! 😰
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post Tue, 2 Oct 2018 - 07:31
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Edit it post #8, the identity of the driver can be deduced. OK what was the date of the alleged infringement and what date was the letter received?
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post Wed, 3 Oct 2018 - 10:51
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QUOTE (ostell @ Tue, 2 Oct 2018 - 08:31) *
Edit it post #8, the identity of the driver can be deduced. OK what was the date of the alleged infringement and what date was the letter received?


Thank you, done.



I am hoping that this is the link to the parking notice?

http://a66.tinypic.com/211l6ir.jpg

Please may I ask does anyone know that if a car goes in and out several times, does it tally this up, or could the first and last pics be used making it look longer?
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post Wed, 3 Oct 2018 - 11:01
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It's what we call a double dip.

Subject to confirmation by others, ask for METs log for that day. You should see the entry of in and out duplicated at different times.


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post Wed, 3 Oct 2018 - 20:27
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So where is POFA 9 (2) (e), is there a period of parking, is the creditor identified?
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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 07:48
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QUOTE (ostell @ Tue, 2 Oct 2018 - 08:31) *
Edit it post #8, the identity of the driver can be deduced. OK what was the date of the alleged infringement and what date was the letter received?


Sorry Ostell I just noticed the question, the date of incident was 20/09/18 and the letter is dated 25/09/18

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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 08:22
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What date was the letter actually *received*, not what date was the letter
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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 12:30
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 09:22) *
What date was the letter actually *received*, not what date was the letter


I’m sorry I’m not sure, it is addressed to my partner as RK who is furious and something else I’m trying to deal with, his wrath! I’ll try to find out, but it may result in a huge row unfortunately, but if it’s important I will, he has a low tolerance threshold of such things. sad.gif
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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 13:16
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Can you give a rough itme period?
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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 18:00
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For the benefit of the regulars, in my experience of MET over 3-4 NtKs, they normally arrive well within the required period. I would also suggest that the evidence on this thread that was started on 27/9/18 confirms that it arrived in good time.


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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 21:25
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Yes I did the post within 24 hrs of receiving the letter. I didn't think to check it that way. rolleyes.gif
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post Thu, 4 Oct 2018 - 21:50
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QUOTE (cabbyman @ Wed, 3 Oct 2018 - 12:01) *
It's what we call a double dip.

Subject to confirmation by others, ask for METs log for that day. You should see the entry of in and out duplicated at different times.


Should I request a copy of the log as part of my appeal, or before I appeal?
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