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Sam9961
post Sat, 18 Jul 2020 - 23:33
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Hi

Please can you help me with this:

- Received a NIP for speeding, 68 mph in 50 mph limit.
- After replying, I received conditional offer of fixed penalty (£100 + 3 points), or court hearing. I was not offered the awareness course.
- The offence date is 06/05/20. The NIP letter dated 12/05/20. I received the NIP letter on 22/5/20. The police say the delay in the posting is not their responsibility. They advised me to check with the post office as to why getting the post late. Can COVID-19 be an acceptable excuse for the delay?
- The conditional offer letter is dated 17/6/20. I received it on 3/7/20. After complaining, they agreed to extend the 28 days period within which I had to respond with my option.
- I requested photo and video footage evidence. They sent me two photos only, captured the front view of the car. They also said "With regards to the footage you have also requested, that can only be viewed, should this matter proceed to court".


Look forward to hearing from you.
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post Wed, 25 Nov 2020 - 14:03
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Excellent news. Thanks for letting us know.

Just to help us to help others, when you say "case dismissed" were you found Not Guilty after giving your evidence or did the prosecution fold before that?
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post Fri, 27 Nov 2020 - 00:03
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QUOTE (NewJudge @ Wed, 25 Nov 2020 - 14:03) *
Excellent news. Thanks for letting us know.

Just to help us to help others, when you say "case dismissed" were you found Not Guilty after giving your evidence or did the prosecution fold before that?



First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to all of those who helped out with their advice and feedback. Their contribution boosted my confidence and played a valuable role when it came to writing up my statement of defence.

What happened was that on the day before the hearing I emailed copies of my Statement of Defence along with the supporting evidence to the Magistrates and the Prosecution. Then next day, while I was waiting to be called for the hearing, the Usher came back to me and told me that there was no need for me to attend the hearing, "Your case has been dismissed!".

I was so jubilant I could not help cracking a joke saying "was it because of my irrefutable statement of defence?".
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post Fri, 27 Nov 2020 - 00:32
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Well done you. I am glad to hear this.
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post Fri, 27 Nov 2020 - 07:40
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That sounds like the prosecution withdrew the case as opposed to being dismissed by the court (which I can't see happening under these circumstances at all).


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post Fri, 27 Nov 2020 - 21:49
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Or the prosecution asked the court to dismiss the case?


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post Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 15:19
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Tue, 24 Nov 2020 - 23:27) *
Congratulations. Always good news to see the police being poked in the eye by an innocent party.


Eh?

Surely this iwas a case of getting away with one. I have no problem with that.

Congrats to the OP for facing it out. But there was no claim of innocence.
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post Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 16:26
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QUOTE (rosturra @ Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 15:19) *
Congrats to the OP for facing it out. But there was no claim of innocence.

In the eyes of the law there is no 'innocence', just guilty or not guilty, and he was not guilty which can be considered akin to innocent really?


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 16:26) *
In the eyes of the law there is no 'innocence', just guilty or not guilty


Apart from in Scotland, where there's guilty, not guilty and not proven biggrin.gif
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post Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 22:15
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FYI, in my written defence, I did not make any reference to the actual speeding incident or argue against it. I concentrated on establishing the procedural impropriety of the NIP being delivered late.
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post Thu, 3 Dec 2020 - 00:06
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 16:26) *
QUOTE (rosturra @ Wed, 2 Dec 2020 - 15:19) *
Congrats to the OP for facing it out. But there was no claim of innocence.

In the eyes of the law there is no 'innocence', just guilty or not guilty, and he was not guilty which can be considered akin to innocent really?


I was responding to notmeatloaf's gloat that it was one in the eye for the police 'by an innocent party'. Which, in this context, implies op was not carrying out the alleged unlawful act at all.

Clearly op is innocent in the legal sense of not having been found guilty in a court case. No stain on his character etc.
And to repeat myself, I have no problems with op researching and benefitting from a procedural error. I would have done the same myself. Well done that man.

But if the police hadn't erred, from what we have been told, there would have been no defence.








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