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Top123
post Mon, 27 Jan 2020 - 12:34
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Hi, i received a charge for unknowingly driving in a bus lane just woundering where i stand.

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This is the road that i was driving on its called dunstable road as you can see in pic i was approaching these traffic lights, in front of me was a ambulance who was in the same lane as me but further ahead in the same lane, the lane turns to bus lane so i was behind a ambulance and kept going behind it onto the bus lane, the ambulance did not have a emergency so there was me thinking it was 2 lanes as the road opposite is 2 lanes no bus lane on that side. As the Ambulance was going slow and it was rush hour about 6.30 pm i thought there was cars in front of the ambulance so was thinking I was in the right lane as you get to the top u can use the same lane to turn left or straight. Any help will be highly appreciated thanks.
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post Wed, 5 Feb 2020 - 12:41
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Any grounds to appeal then. Thanks
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post Wed, 5 Feb 2020 - 13:58
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QUOTE (Top123 @ Wed, 5 Feb 2020 - 12:41) *
Any grounds to appeal then. Thanks


leave it with me I will draft something tonight


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post Thu, 6 Feb 2020 - 00:49
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Much appreciated Thanks
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post Sat, 8 Feb 2020 - 12:51
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Just wondering if you had a chance to draft anything yet
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post Sat, 8 Feb 2020 - 14:17
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QUOTE (Top123 @ Sat, 8 Feb 2020 - 12:51) *
Just wondering if you had a chance to draft anything yet


sorry I knew there was one I had missed. I will do it tomorrow, please bump if I don't


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post Sun, 9 Feb 2020 - 19:42
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sat, 8 Feb 2020 - 14:17) *
QUOTE (Top123 @ Sat, 8 Feb 2020 - 12:51) *
Just wondering if you had a chance to draft anything yet


sorry I knew there was one I had missed. I will do it tomorrow, please bump if I don't


working on this but it will take longer than I hoped will finish by tomorrow


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post Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 08:49
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Bump for PMB, 28 day period expires on 23 February so we have a bit of time.


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post Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 19:38
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 08:49) *
Bump for PMB, 28 day period expires on 23 February so we have a bit of time.



Thanks CP I know, just had a bit of a relapse the last couple of days I've got everything I want together other than the high court case on abuse of process, if you can help with that it will be appreciated


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post Wed, 12 Feb 2020 - 15:49
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PMB so sorry to hear that hope all is well now, look forward to seeing the the draft of the appeal. Thanks for all the help
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post Fri, 14 Feb 2020 - 17:02
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 19:38) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 08:49) *
Bump for PMB, 28 day period expires on 23 February so we have a bit of time.



Thanks CP I know, just had a bit of a relapse the last couple of days I've got everything I want together other than the high court case on abuse of process, if you can help with that it will be appreciated

Well there's probably dozens of HC cases on abuse of process if not more, did you mean R v Secretary of State for the Home Department, ex p. Doody [1993] UKHL 8?

All the ones I have which I feel are PCN related are listed on the PCN Master Spreadsheet on the fourth tab, labelled "High Court / Court of Appeal cases"


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post Fri, 14 Feb 2020 - 19:14
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Fri, 14 Feb 2020 - 17:02) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 19:38) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 11 Feb 2020 - 08:49) *
Bump for PMB, 28 day period expires on 23 February so we have a bit of time.



Thanks CP I know, just had a bit of a relapse the last couple of days I've got everything I want together other than the high court case on abuse of process, if you can help with that it will be appreciated

Well there's probably dozens of HC cases on abuse of process if not more, did you mean R v Secretary of State for the Home Department, ex p. Doody [1993] UKHL 8?

All the ones I have which I feel are PCN related are listed on the PCN Master Spreadsheet on the fourth tab, labelled "High Court / Court of Appeal cases"



Ta that's the one I was thinking of did you notice the time stamp on the evidence photos in the NoR funny they need them to show how clear the lines are

OP I am baby sitting my granddaughter tomorrow night so have set aside the time to do this

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post Sat, 15 Feb 2020 - 15:32
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Okay that's great.Thanks
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post Sun, 16 Feb 2020 - 22:16
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Top 123 sorry this has taken so long things just kept getting in the way, but there is plenty of time as CP pointed out.

What you should do now is to go to the tribunal portal as per the instructions on the NOR. register your appeal use the ground the contravention did no occur where they ask for submissions write full submission to follow. and submit

The TPT will register your appeal and e mail you to let you know with dates by which you should submit evidence and allocate you a case number when you get this fill it in in the appeal draft along with your name, convert to PDF then send both files as evidence.

Once you register your appeal the tribunal will let the council know, they then have 7 days to download a copy of the PCN a coy of your representation and a copy of the NOR. I want you to check after 7 days because if the do not I will ad a further argument that they have failed to comply with the regulations

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post Tue, 18 Feb 2020 - 07:04
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Not to worry PMB we still have time so that's fine.
Will try to submit by today but have tried to register got a couple of questions about the TPT.
The vehicle belongs to my mother but it was me driving at the time so should i appeal behalf of my mother as appellant representative or should i just use my mother name and use all her details?
It also says explain your appeal and add evidence, is that where you telling me to write full submission to follow.
Also on the draft appeal it says cambridge county council will i not be sending the appeal to luton borough council?
Thanks for the help.

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post Wed, 19 Feb 2020 - 21:54
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Top123 I'm guessing PMB might have re-used a previous draft, it needs to be amended to say Luton Borough Council. You don't send your appeal to any council, you appeal to the tribunal.

The appeal has to be registered in your mother's name but you can act as her representative, for the sake of simplicity I would do that as it mean you don't have to bother referring to yourself in the third person. You don't need to add any evidence at this stage.


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post Fri, 21 Feb 2020 - 07:06
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Thanks CPA i have registered the appeal on TBT in mums name and put me as appellant representative and now am waiting for the council to respond.

One more question where it says appellant vs respondent on draft appeal should i write my name or mother name or both?
Thanks for the replies
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post Fri, 21 Feb 2020 - 20:00
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Your mum is the appellant so put her name.


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post Mon, 2 Mar 2020 - 06:39
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So i made a appeal TBT and its saying they are waiting for authority to upload evidence. I haven't uploaded mine yet so was wondering as they are only 2 days till its 14days should i just upload my appeal or would i get a chance to when the authority uploads theirs.
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post Mon, 2 Mar 2020 - 12:42
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You'll have a chance when the council uploads its evidence. If you run out of time, you can always ask the tribunal to re-schedule, a firsts adjournment is normally given with no fuss.


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