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FightBack Forums _ Speeding and other Criminal Offences _ [NIP Wizard] Help! 2 NIP's same camera in 1 day. What will I get?

Posted by: Ski77 Sat, 2 Jun 2018 - 23:53
Post #1387104

NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - May 2018
Date of the NIP: - 6 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Wighill lane, wetherby, adj view centre (bidirectional), united kingdom
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I have been given two NIP's on the same day, same camera from both directions. Doing 41 and 43 in a 30 zone. The road did not have any street lights, it's looked like a rural road. Iooking on Google Street view it changes from 60 to 30 in one direction and from the other direction I was doing 30 going through a small villages that had street lights but after leaving the village did not notice a 30 sign, my bad! This will be my first time getting any speeding tickets. What are people's opinions on how bad this is going to be for me? Will I get option for speed awareness, fixed points (how many?), Or will I go to court?

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:


Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 23:53:55 +0000

Posted by: The Rookie Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 00:11
Post #1387105

One speed awareness course and one offer of a fixed penalty of £100 and 3 points. It won’t go to court unless you do something to make that happen.

Posted by: ford poplar Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 01:33
Post #1387112

Location GSV?

Posted by: morrisman Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 06:48
Post #1387114

QUOTE (ford poplar @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 02:33) *
Location GSV?


https://goo.gl/Vk2anH at a guess as it's the only one on Wighill Lane. Strange that the OP says both directions as it's a Gatso but the GSV is from 2012

Posted by: 122basy Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 13:26
Post #1387154

QUOTE (morrisman @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 06:48) *
QUOTE (ford poplar @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 02:33) *
Location GSV?


https://goo.gl/Vk2anH at a guess as it's the only one on Wighill Lane. Strange that the OP says both directions as it's a Gatso but the GSV is from 2012

Not any more it isn’t. “Wighill lane, wetherby, adj view centre (bidirectional), united kingdom”. The “bidirectional” indicates a Truvelo D-Cam in that mode.

Posted by: Ski77 Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 20:20
Post #1387228

Morrisman - yes that’s the location and it was not a gastso as the NIP’s show me in both directions so a truvelo camera. GSV is old.
Are other people in agreement that I might get an awareness course for on NIP and fixed fine of £100 and 3 points for the othe NIP? Thanks for all your replies.

Posted by: Jlc Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 20:33
Post #1387236

Yes.

Posted by: Ski77 Thu, 7 Jun 2018 - 01:12
Post #1388196

Ok so I received conditional offer for the second NIP of 3 fixed points for doing 43mph in 30 zone. My next question if the second NIP for doing 41mph comes through as conditional offer of speed awareness or 3 fixed points, what do I do?
Would I have to take the points? Or would I be able to do the speed awareness course if I take the 3 points for the first offence committed on same day, same camera? I ask as I would I have 3 points on licence appear on database wouldn’t I? Meaning I would not be able to do the course and have to 6 points on licence! Confused! Advice please?

Posted by: ford poplar Thu, 7 Jun 2018 - 02:41
Post #1388199

Police are not obligated to offer a SAC for any offence. If offered you should take it,unless you have a cast iron defence.

Posted by: Jlc Thu, 7 Jun 2018 - 04:53
Post #1388201

Having points isn't a factor in offering/taking a course.

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