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tonybaloney
post Tue, 19 Apr 2011 - 20:14
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I got a ticket from this lot a couple of weeks ago, in Sheffield. Me and a mate were working and had my van parked in my clients parking spot, which is controlled by VCS. I'd had a permit and a note on my dash, saying where I was working and even the operatives number, who'd said we were ok to park there a couple of weeks earlier.
We'd been there all day, without a problem aswell as all the previous day. We nipped out to the suppliers and came back about an hour later to get some paperwork signed.
The permit and note must have fallen off the dash, while we were out without us seeing. When we came back to the van, about 20 minutes after parking up, there was a ticket on it asking for the usual extortionate fee of £80.
I sent an email in, telling VCS of the circumstances. As expected, they said that the ticket would stand and gave me another 2 weeks to pay, which ends on 21/4/11, or it would go up to £120.
I know all the advice says to ignore the notice and don't acknowledge them, but if they tracked down my company as the registered keeper, they'd pay the fee and take it out of my wages aswell as a nice little "admin fee".
I can't make my mind up if the notice is filled in correctly, as the contravention code is only filled in on the bottom section of the ticket.
Any advice on this would be a great help.

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post Sat, 3 Dec 2016 - 08:07
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QUOTE (emanresu @ Sat, 3 Dec 2016 - 06:10) *
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The problem is that they are the local branch of a nationwide chain,


Is this Mainstay?

In addition, they will have a standard contract so get a copy of that.

Is this any good?


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tonybaloney
post Sat, 3 Dec 2016 - 23:16
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Thanks emanresu and Lynnzer- I'm not sure what Mainstay is. Is it a landowner? My permit was for a banking group, which is why I think the lease may be tricky to get hold of.
I tried to get hold of the person that I used to deal with and I'm just waiting for him to get back to me.
I'll have a look at that agreement, Lynnzer and see if I get any inspiration for a response to BW and also a follow up complaint to the CSA.
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post Sun, 4 Dec 2016 - 06:21
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Are we talking about a residential or commercial property?


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tonybaloney
post Sun, 4 Dec 2016 - 19:25
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Hi Cabbyman- It's commercial. It's a few parking spots reserved for a couple of the local businesses. One of them was a client of ours and they used to give us a permit to use one of their spots when we were there for breakdowns and service calls.
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tonybaloney
post Tue, 6 Dec 2016 - 20:33
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I've just checked dates and realised that I've only got a couple of days left to respond to BW's last letter, before they update their records, to say how happy I am with their business practices huh.gif
I've just submitted a further complaint to the CSA, asking them to investigate BW directly and not refer it back to them.
This is the quick email that I've sent to BW:

Dear Sir,

I am writing in response to your letter, dated ....

As I feel you haven’t answered any of my issues or answered any of my questions satisfactorily, I am not accepting this a suitable conclusion to my complaint.
It is no surprise that you don’t think that you have done anything wrong and so, I have submitted a further complaint to the CSA asking them to look into the matter, themselves.

To be absolutely clear, I am not happy with your resolution and you are not to “update your records accordingly”.

I will await a response from the CSA, regarding this matter and may I also remind you, that a further complaint is still being investigated by the SRA into your handling of the claim.

Yours Faithfully

I'm not sure if it will have any effect, but I thought it was worth it, for the sake of another stamp to the CSA and a bit more grief for BW.

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tonybaloney
post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 12:43
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Hello again,

20 Months after the last correspondence about this, I've now had another letter- identical to the first BW Legal letter. Is this some sort of new tactic by them or just another example of their incompetence?
It is now 7 years and 4 months since I got the original ticket.

Thanks again.
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post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 12:52
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I think incompetence to its highest.

So now a quick letter stating that this alleged debt is statute barred and any further letters will be considered harassment. Court action would be vexatious and bound to fail and you would look to recovering your full costs from them for their unreasonable behaviour.
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tonybaloney
post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 13:02
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Thanks Ostell- I thought that might be the case, but thought I'd better check in case something had changed.
It's tempting to see if I could drag it out by recycling my previous letters to them. A quick email might be easiest though biggrin.gif
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post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 13:41
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Send it snail mail first class and get free certificate of posting from a post office. Just to show it was sent.
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post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 13:55
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If they have email, send it email> Why waste a stamp!
I would point out that, as the claim has no chance of success, in the unlikely event a claim is issued by the CCBC, you will imediately for it to be struck out as it is statute barred and, as there is no costs protection as it would not be on any trakc, you would apply for your costs at the full Band D rate of £120 per hour.
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post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 16:08
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 14:55) *
you would apply for your costs at the full Band D rate of £120 per hour.

Eh? Read CPR46.5 and PD46, 3.4.


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post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 18:40
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Acknowledged! I couldn't recall the rates allowed.
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post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 21:36
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QUOTE (nosferatu1001 @ Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 19:40) *
Acknowledged! I couldn't recall the rates allowed.

19 squid per, unless you’re a lawyer.


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post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 06:02
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Thanks again, everyone.
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post Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 09:40
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WE've had at least one case where £60 an hour was allowed, as the C was particularly unreasonable. Over on MSE from memory.
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tonybaloney
post Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 17:31
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I'm sure that a year and a half past the Statute Barring date constitutes harassment and unreasonable behaviour biggrin.gif wink.gif
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tonybaloney
post Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 20:50
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Does this sound ok to everyone, before I send it?

In reference to your letter dated -------, this alleged debt is now statute barred and any attempt to contact me further, apart from to confirm the matter closed, will be considered harassment.
If there is any attempt at Court Action, I will immediately request for it to be struck out.
As there is no cost protection, I will make a claim for the maximum permissible amount under Practice Direction Part 46.

Yours Faithfully
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 08:26
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Maybe reference statute barred for 18 months?
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tonybaloney
post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 13:12
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Will do- thanks
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