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Parking Charge Notice - Have NEVER been to this place!, PCN Fake photo evidence
Ginger248
post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 11:53
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Hi

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this issue;

I've received a Parking Charge Notice from Parking Eye, stating I was in a certain Aldi car park for over three hours. I was not, I know I was at home all afternoon with my car parked on the street.

In addition to this I have NEVER EVER been to the Aldi, or car park stated in the notice. How ever, on the notice the is an image of a car almost exactly like mine with the number plates highlighted. The photos are black & white and darkened with the plates highlighted, so could have easily been Photoshoped. Because of this I am also unable to make out any distinguishing features on the car (stickers in back window etc) to confirm it is actually mine (which it isn't).

If it is a photoshop scam, it seems extremely illaborate to have an image of a car of my description in a car park under their ownership, match them with my plate details, then blend them together and send the charge to me. Could this mean my vehicle has been cloned? And if so, how do I go about it without having to falsely admit my presence at said car park to Parking Eye? (as I have read a lot of stories of people appealing and involved in a very lengthy, costly process even when innocent, just for admitting ownership through Parking Eye's system)

The other thing I should add is that I have only just found these letters. They had been going to my parents address (as that is where the car must still be registered to), and am now on my 3rd notice and over a month since the 1st one.

Any help on this, or any info from people in the same situation would be hugely appreciated! As i cannot find any other example of duplicated vehicle plates on parking tickets anywhere online.

Many Thanks!
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 12:12
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No it's not a 'photoshop scam' - ParkingEye issue thousands of court claims so this needs resolving.

This sounds like it could be a possible clone so it should be reported to the police immediately - you'll need a crime reference number to provide to PE.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 12:14
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Report the suspected clone to the police

Tell ParkingEye that the car was not there, you've reported the clone to the police and they must keep the photographs safe

Send the message as an email, not an online appeal
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 12:16
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QUOTE (Ginger248 @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 12:53) *
...had been going to my parents address (as that is where the car must still be registered to), and am now on my 3rd notice and over a month since the 1st one.

This in itself is not an issue as long as the post is checked in a timely fashion (it appears not). You may something 'important' like a speeding NIP.

Get it updated to your current address.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 13:07
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It's either a cloned plate, as suggested, or the ANPR camera is malfunctioning, or a bit of dirt on the number plate causing a misread. The car looking the same is easily explainable as a dealer would licence several cars together and the numbers would be almost the same. single digit error would identify you and not the correct car.

Can you actually read the number plates on the photos? or just the number that the computer guessed at?
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 13:18
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Thanks for your advise all! I'll get my Log book off to DVLA for the address change, then report to police. Then take it from there with the police report number. Many thanks!!!!


QUOTE (ostell @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 14:07) *
It's either a cloned plate, as suggested, or the ANPR camera is malfunctioning, or a bit of dirt on the number plate causing a misread. The car looking the same is easily explainable as a dealer would licence several cars together and the numbers would be almost the same. single digit error would identify you and not the correct car.

Can you actually read the number plates on the photos? or just the number that the computer guessed at?


Yes, you can see the plate clearly, although it is heavily highlighted from the rest of the image.
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 13:47
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That is normal as its not CCTV but ANPR and focuses on the numberplate.
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 14:00
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A 'repeated' misread could also be possible. ANPR isn't perfect.

Both the front and rear plates are normally scanned.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 14:08
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Bit of dirt then 0 becomes 8 L becomes I.

Is it front and back plates scanned?
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post Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 15:17
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QUOTE (ostell @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 15:08) *
Bit of dirt then 0 becomes 8 L becomes I.

Is it front and back plates scanned?



yeah, two images, front and rear.
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