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post Tue, 28 Nov 2017 - 20:24
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - November 2017
Date of the NIP: - 2 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - m25 (Junction 12-13)
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - A potential buyer was test driving my car on the date of offence, I am unsure at the time of offence who was driving the car.(Either me or her) Before letting them drive my car I did take the copy of their license(Spanish) and copy of Insurance( British, Comprehensive) before they drove the car. On day of test drive/Offence they were UK residents but subsequently moved back to Spain. Couple of questions:
1) I have seen the pictures available online I can not figure out who was driving the car, it was late at night. Who should I confirm as the driver?
2) If I should name her as the driver, should I provide the UK address( she does not live there anymore) or the Spanish address?
3) I would not be able to furnish any information on how and when she left the country as I can not get hold of them now
4) If I name myself the driver how many points should I expect, it was doing 67 on 50 variable speed limit on M25.

All feedback would be much appreciated.

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Unsure
Do you know who was driving? - Unsure who was driving

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

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post Fri, 8 Dec 2017 - 13:02
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Fri, 8 Dec 2017 - 04:01) *
Naming the most likely driver and being wrong would leave you open to a perverting charge though if it was genuinely 'the most likely driver' that offence wouldn't have been committed, but it would be an S172 offence.
Do you know of any cases where this has happened?

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post Fri, 8 Dec 2017 - 13:02
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post Fri, 8 Dec 2017 - 16:31
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No, for the reason given in the sentence after.

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