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Received a PCN from Euro car parks on Staines Road Retail Park.
Sonu rocks
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 10:08
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Good Morning All,

The driver has received this PCN (please see attached). There is a camera which has taken the picture while the vehicle has entered and when the vehicle was leaving, there is only the number plate on the PCN and not the whole picture of the car.

Please help!

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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 10:13
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Not a lot to go on and the scan is unreadable.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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Sonu rocks
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 10:56
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Thanks
I will try and upload another pic
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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 11:39
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READ FIRST sticky tells you exactly what to do.
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Sonu rocks
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 12:47
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I tried everything from the instructions given as well as from the internet resizing options but I am unable to upload the image. Need help please?
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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 12:58
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You havent done so, because you dont use the attachment space here you use a site some as imgur, tinypic and paoste the links here.
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Sonu rocks
post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 13:21
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Please let me know if this is working




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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 13:25
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Can see imgur, imagize is work blocked. Are they the same document? We're not mindreaders here

So the vehicle was parked longer than allowed - why? Was it? What was the overstay?
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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 13:51
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Sorry

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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 13:56
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Edit your posts so that a possible driver cannot be inferred

Dear Sirs,

I have just received your Notice to Keeper xxxxx for vehicle VRM xxxx

You have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to give the invitation to keeper in the format prescribed by section 9 (2) (e) of the Act. You cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper.

There is no legal requirement to name the driver at the time and I will not be doing so.

I do not expect to hear from you again, or your debt collectors, except to confirm that no further action will be taken on this matter and my personal details have been removed from your records.

Yours etc


First class post with free certificate of posting from a post office

They will reject but POPLA should be successful

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post Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 16:10
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Thank you Ostell!
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Sonu rocks
post Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 18:00
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Hello again,

Please see the reply from Euro Car park:

https://imgur.com/a/srpNdeM
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post Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 18:05
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Start compiling your POPLA appeal.

Key point being lack of keeper liability. They’ll probably not contest...

They are not in the business of accepting appeals - no income in that...


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 18:11
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How to compile POPLA appeal please?
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post Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 19:19
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QUOTE (Sonu rocks @ Sat, 19 Oct 2019 - 19:11) *
How to compile POPLA appeal please?


Can you read the forum?
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Sonu rocks
post Sun, 20 Oct 2019 - 08:23
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Sorry, so as I understand I should write the same letter to POPLA as follows:

Dear Sirs,

I had received the Notice to Keeper xxxxx for vehicle VRM xxxx from Euro Car Parks dated ......

They have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failed to give the invitation to keeper in the format prescribed by section 9 (2) (e) of the Act. They cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper.

Yours etc

Please let me know if my understanding is correct.
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post Sun, 20 Oct 2019 - 11:47
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You write to POPLA itemising ALL the POFA fails, question there right to issue charges, request the provide a copy of their contract and a witness statement saying it exists is insufficient
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post Sun, 20 Oct 2019 - 12:39
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Thank you Ostell. I will try and list the failed items.
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post Today, 06:44
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No try, the legislation is easy to read and understand - its just gonna take a couple goes through.

You MUST - MUST - read other POPLA appeals from 2019. DONT do this solo.
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