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Retail Shopping double yellow |
Tue, 10 Sep 2019 - 08:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 16 May 2018 Member No.: 97,987 |
Hi
Does anyone know if it's worth contending a PCN for parking on double yellow at the fort shopping centre? I received a PCN yesterday indicating that the vehicle was parked on DYL. Where THE DRIVER was waiting on DYL no longer than necessary to embark a passenger. This post has been edited by farenheit: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 - 06:05 -------------------- Sante des femmes viagrasansordonnancefr.com medecins recommandent
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Thu, 12 Sep 2019 - 17:20
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Also is the sign saying i can no longer come back to this retail park and park if this PCN isnt settled? Nothing on the sign appears to even remotely suggests that. What part do you think does? Next to the little parking charge notice box in small fonts. Nope, that says absolutely nothing of the sort! All that says is that if you stay there longer than 24 hours they can raise another charge. Nothing about not coming back at all. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 06:51
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Youre the hirer, so put your name in.
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Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 10:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 16 May 2018 Member No.: 97,987 |
Youre the hirer, so put your name in. Even if im the RK? -------------------- Sante des femmes viagrasansordonnancefr.com medecins recommandent
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Fri, 13 Sep 2019 - 11:13
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
My understanding is that the OP is the registered keeper so use that
He appears to be saying that the ban on a return to the retail park is an instruction on the Parking Notice, not the sign Apart from the question whether PCM has any such authority, who is banned ? The driver or anyone else that uses the vehicle ? In any case, if the car is specifically excluded, PCM cannot deny that a return visit would be trespass, not a contract I would put in the appeal that boarding/alighting is an exemption to yellow lines regulations PCM uses yellow lines to signify no parking and the motorist is entitled to assume that they have the same meaning as on a public road If PCM intended that the exemption doesn't apply and cars mustn't stop, they should have used red lines |
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Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 09:02
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 16 May 2018 Member No.: 97,987 |
Out of interest, if/when the appeal gets rejected at the first stage do I lose the option of the reduced rate?
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Mon, 16 Sep 2019 - 15:54
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
The Rate you're paying is £0
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Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 06:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 16 May 2018 Member No.: 97,987 |
Am I ok to paste my draft here for checking? 🙂
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Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 07:37
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Yes, but I struggle to see how it needs it - its a first stage appeal and you have all the info you need.
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Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 07:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 16 May 2018 Member No.: 97,987 |
Yes, but I struggle to see how it needs it - its a first stage appeal and you have all the info you need. The real effort comes in POPLA appeals. Just wanted some reassurance CODE [my name
and address] [date] [name and address of PPC] Dear Sir or Madam, Ticket number: [xxx] Vehicle registration number: [xxx] I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement. There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn and I therefore decline your invitation to name the driver, which is not required of me as the keeper of the vehicle. I will not be paying your demand for payment for the following reasons: • Boarding/Alighting is an exemption to yellow lines regulations and the THE DRIVER was waiting on DYL no longer than necessary to embark a passenger. • The car park in question has no clear signage to explain what the relevant parking restrictions are and makes no offer of parking on the yellow lines; as such the driver couldn't have entered a contract to do so. Trespass can only be actioned by the land holder. This means no contract can be formed with the landowner and all tickets are issued illegally. Please see attached Image. • The Notice to Keeper failed to meet the obligations of Schedule 4 of the POFA Act 2012 Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence; in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date. Formal note: Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future. [signature] [name (printed)] This post has been edited by farenheit: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 14:28 -------------------- Sante des femmes viagrasansordonnancefr.com medecins recommandent
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