The 'willing to go to jail to avoid speeding' thread |
The 'willing to go to jail to avoid speeding' thread |
Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Maybe rather than keep starting posts we can put them into one as a warning to others
Two speeding events, not his van honest guvnor, jailed for 6 months. And from the archives under the status of legendary Andy Roo (ex of this parish) Chris Huhne and the ex Mrs Huhne And a future volunteer it seems This post has been edited by The Rookie: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 - 09:50 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 3 Aug 2018 - 09:41
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THREE Bradford men, including a cab driver, have avoided immediate jail time, after admitting paying someone else to take care of a speeding fine for them.
The men, Mohammed Yasin, 57, Masawar Ali, 52, and Mohammed Banaras, 36, all passed off their notice of intended prosecution from the police to a third party, who filled out the form on their behalf. But the police became suspicious when the same name, Sharjeel Jelani, cropped up on a number of forms, with different addresses – using similar handwriting. The real Mr Jelani faced magistrates’ court in two of the incidents, and received a county count judgment against his name for unpaid fines. Yasin of Hastings Place, Ali, of Ambleside Avenue, and Banaras, of Westfield Road, all pleaded guilty to one count each of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, and were sentenced to five months in prison, suspended for two years. They must also complete the maximum 300 hours of unpaid work in the next 12 months. Prosecutor Jeremy Barton told Bradford Crown Court that the men, who did not know one another, had tried to “avoid prosecution” through the scheme, which had ended up affecting victim Mr Jelani’s finances and ability to insure a vehicle. The men had been travelling between 30 and 40mph in 30 zones when they were caught by speed cameras. Judge Colin Burn said it was a “blatant attempt to defraud road traffic enforcement and therefore the justice system”. Nadim Bashir for Yasin, who was caught speeding on December 12, 2014, on the A6177, said he faced losing the car he used as a private hire driver if he got points on his licence, panicked and paid someone £150. Shufqat Khan for Ali, who was caught speeding on the A647, on April 21, 2015, said he had been concerned about the impact on his job at a tyre garage and paid someone £80 out of “sheer stupidity”. David Bradshaw for Banaras, who was caught speeding on Thornton Road on August 3, 2015, said it had been a “foolish act”. Linky -------------------- |
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Fri, 3 Aug 2018 - 10:31
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and received a county count judgment against his name for unpaid fines. -------------------- Moderator
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Tue, 14 Aug 2018 - 14:17
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Ok a bit more than speeding, and going to jail anyway, but lets throw petrol on the fire anyway!
Quote of the day goes to QUOTE Patrick Mason, prosecuting, said that during the pursuit on May 15, "if there was a traffic regulation, he broke it". http://www.yeovilexpress.co.uk/news/164118...rse-of-justice/ -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 11 Sep 2018 - 11:24
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Business director, 58, tried to dodge a speeding fine by giving police a photo of an innocent man in CANADA who looked like her husband - but avoids jail so she can look after her family.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-61...nocent-man.html This post has been edited by peterguk: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 - 11:24 -------------------- |
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Tue, 11 Sep 2018 - 18:55
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Member Group: Members Posts: 3,140 Joined: 19 Jun 2004 From: Surrey Member No.: 1,326 |
Business director, 58, tried to dodge a speeding fine by giving police a photo of an innocent man in CANADA who looked like her husband - but avoids jail so she can look after her family. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-61...nocent-man.html Another example of a woman not going to jail when a man would. |
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Tue, 9 Oct 2018 - 18:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
A new entry - here.
QUOTE A driver who tried to dodge a speeding fine by pretending to be his dead brother has been jailed.
Silburn Campbell, who has never passed his driving test, was clocked driving his mother's Mercedes at 37mph in a 30mph zone in 2014, Essex Police said. Police received correspondence stating Kenneth Campbell was behind the wheel at the time of the offence, which was captured by a camera in Epping. He "pleaded guilty" but it was later found he had died in 2001. Essex Police wrote to the vehicle's registered keeper asking for the identity of the driver, and received responses stating it was Kenneth Campbell. Later, a guilty plea was entered by post. The matter was heard in court in Kenneth Campbell's absence in March 2015, and he was given three penalty points and fined £150. Several weeks later, police said Silburn Campbell posed as his dead brother and called the court asking for extra time to pay the fine. But he gave his late brother's National Insurance number which confirmed he had died in February 2001. Campbell, 54, of Elmer Road, Catford, in south-east London, denied completing the forms using his brother's details when he was interviewed by Essex Police. But he did admit having a provisional driving licence and never passing his driving test. He was charged with perverting the course of justice and pleaded guilty at Chelmsford Crown Court on 4 July. Campbell was sentenced on 25 September at Basildon Crown Court to three months in prison. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 9 Oct 2018 - 18:45
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A new entry - here. QUOTE A driver who tried to dodge a speeding fine by pretending to be his dead brother has been jailed. Silburn Campbell, who has never passed his driving test, was clocked driving his mother's Mercedes at 37mph in a 30mph zone in 2014, Essex Police said. Police received correspondence stating Kenneth Campbell was behind the wheel at the time of the offence, which was captured by a camera in Epping. He "pleaded guilty" but it was later found he had died in 2001. Essex Police wrote to the vehicle's registered keeper asking for the identity of the driver, and received responses stating it was Kenneth Campbell. Later, a guilty plea was entered by post. The matter was heard in court in Kenneth Campbell's absence in March 2015, and he was given three penalty points and fined £150. Several weeks later, police said Silburn Campbell posed as his dead brother and called the court asking for extra time to pay the fine. But he gave his late brother's National Insurance number which confirmed he had died in February 2001. Campbell, 54, of Elmer Road, Catford, in south-east London, denied completing the forms using his brother's details when he was interviewed by Essex Police. But he did admit having a provisional driving licence and never passing his driving test. He was charged with perverting the course of justice and pleaded guilty at Chelmsford Crown Court on 4 July. Campbell was sentenced on 25 September at Basildon Crown Court to three months in prison. So he’d got clean away, until he asked for time to pay. Genius! |
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Wed, 10 Oct 2018 - 08:51
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A new entry - here. QUOTE A driver who tried to dodge a speeding fine by pretending to be his dead brother has been jailed. Silburn Campbell, who has never passed his driving test, was clocked driving his mother's Mercedes at 37mph in a 30mph zone in 2014, Essex Police said. Police received correspondence stating Kenneth Campbell was behind the wheel at the time of the offence, which was captured by a camera in Epping. He "pleaded guilty" but it was later found he had died in 2001. Essex Police wrote to the vehicle's registered keeper asking for the identity of the driver, and received responses stating it was Kenneth Campbell. Later, a guilty plea was entered by post. The matter was heard in court in Kenneth Campbell's absence in March 2015, and he was given three penalty points and fined £150. Several weeks later, police said Silburn Campbell posed as his dead brother and called the court asking for extra time to pay the fine. But he gave his late brother's National Insurance number which confirmed he had died in February 2001. Campbell, 54, of Elmer Road, Catford, in south-east London, denied completing the forms using his brother's details when he was interviewed by Essex Police. But he did admit having a provisional driving licence and never passing his driving test. He was charged with perverting the course of justice and pleaded guilty at Chelmsford Crown Court on 4 July. Campbell was sentenced on 25 September at Basildon Crown Court to three months in prison. So he’d got clean away, until he asked for time to pay. Genius! |
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Wed, 10 Oct 2018 - 09:40
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Not really, it's just that when asked to submit relevant information to that request he gave the game away.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Tue, 6 Nov 2018 - 12:44
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A quite laughable attempt this one!
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/nor...s-37494726.html 3 NIP's managed to commit PCOJ a total of 7 times for them, he's even worse at lying than driving it seems. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 8 Nov 2018 - 14:07
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
And another, the old 'it was a foreign driver' routine..... multiple times.
https://www.inyourarea.co.uk/news/liar-sent...speeding-fines/ 2 years in this case. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 11:38
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Gave a false name for 5 offences and then defended it in court, I think on that basis he got off lightly with an 8 months sentence.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/tech-auto...in-month/30/11/ -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 12:01
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QUOTE PC Michael Martin from the City of London Police said: “This case shows how seriously we take traffic offences and that nobody is above the law. “Serial offenders will be brought before the courts to face the consequences of their actions which can’t just be swept under the carpet. “Speeding can endanger not just the driver’s life but also other law-abiding road users and will not be tolerated. “Today’s sentencing illustrates just how severe your punishment can be, not only if you continuously break the speed limit, but also if you waste police time by providing false information and not owning up to your actions. “Failure to comply with a request to identify the driver of a vehicle at the time of an offence, or giving false information, is viewed by the courts as an attempt to undermine the fundamental process of law, the repercussions of which Mr Khan is now realising.” The usual holier than thou claptrap from the police I see. 1. He was not tried or sentenced for a traffic offence, so I don’t see the relevance of the seriousness or otherwise with which the COLP takes traffic offences. 2. Speeding may not be tolerated but again, he was not on trial for speeding. 3. He was not sentenced for speeding or wasting police time. 4. Failure to name the driver is not, so far as I know, viewed by the courts as an attempt to undermine the process of the law, neither was he sentenced for such. -------------------- Moderator
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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 12:20
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I agree (I'd read those and groaned), and of course all the robo 'copy and paste' reports are spewing the same. But then how often do you tell posters not to go to a Police officer for advice on the law!
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Fri, 30 Nov 2018 - 12:25
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I agree (I'd read those and groaned), and of course all the robo 'copy and paste' reports are spewing the same. But then how often do you tell posters not to go to a Police officer for advice on the law! About as often as I tell clients! -------------------- Moderator
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Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 08:27
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Rather than slowing down to avoid known cameras he chose to deface his front number plate to look like another....4 months suspended, rather over dramatised reporting though.
https://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news/...blame-1-9476059 -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 19:46
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£500 for getting a couple of incorrect NIPs? The chap in Plymouth must be laughing all the way to the bank!
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Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 21:33
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£500 is a bit high but £200 would have been reasonable
After receiving two NIPs he would have been put to some inconvenience proving his car wasn't there and reporting the clone Can that figure be used as a benchmark for data protection claims arising from PPC misreads and double-dips ? This post has been edited by Redivi: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 - 21:33 |
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Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 13:02
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But judge Paul Worsley QC ................ slammed the businessman for the “inconvenience” he had caused to a “wholly-innocent man who must have got the shock of his life” when he received the two speeding tickets.
So does this mean every time a motorist gets an erroneous speeding ticket from a "safety camera" they'll get a cheque for £500? Thought not. -------------------- Speed does not kill. It's more to do with how you stop.
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Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 13:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,195 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
No, because there is no criminality as a cause. (plus it works out at £250/ticket anyway).
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