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h3lp
post Tue, 28 May 2019 - 07:24
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Hi All,

One of our vans got ticketed whilst unloading on non-restricted double yellow lines.

We appealed with supporting evidence but this got rejected because the van was near a junction.

Can anyone see anything incorrect about the council's letter before we pay?

Cheers.

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hcandersen
post Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 08:15
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Well regardless of what hcandersen might think, we clearly know the NtO is dated 16 July,


If it's been posted, then fine. Which post?

So instead of contacting the council to find out the actual position, the OP or whoever is going to make reps against someone else's NTO on the flimsiest of bases, namely the letter from the lease company to the council which does not explicitly or IMO implicity authorise the nominated to person to do anything AND the lease company's letter to the nominated person that they have written to the council to TRANSFER liability. And this despite having the best part of a fortnight to simply contact the council to find out the situation. One minute we're waiting for a NTO in the nominated person's name, then we're not, and all because no contact has been made with the council.

OP, you seem happy to accept this advice - on someone else's behalf? - without answering any of the questions posed. Good luck.

PS: don't send the lease company's letter to you/nominated person to the council because if anything this would tell the council that you/they are NOT authorised but that, as the letter states very clearly, the company's intent is that liability should be transferred to the addressee in which case how the hell can you or anyone make reps??

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post Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 17:36
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QUOTE (hcandersen @ Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 09:15) *
Well regardless of what hcandersen might think, we clearly know the NtO is dated 16 July,


If it's been posted, then fine. Which post?

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QUOTE (h3lp @ Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 08:38) *
Thank you so much I will update again they reject smile.gif

Don't forget the nominated person must keep on the lease company's back, if the council reject you don't want the lease company to panic and pay the penalty, as you then lose the opportunity to appeal further. It might be an idea to pre-emotively inform them that if the council reject the nominated person intends to appeal to the tribunal, and make sure they're on board with this.


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- h3lp   Unloading Claim Rejected   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 07:24
- - Redivi   Post up all the documents, every page and a Street...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 07:55
- - stamfordman   Pretty certain this is nonsense as we've seen ...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 08:07
- - h3lp   Cheers guys, I haven't got the copy of my fir...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 08:32
- - stamfordman   Observation time was 5 mins which further suggests...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 08:46
- - PASTMYBEST   What a crock of bull. The exemption applies end of...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 09:05
- - stamfordman   OP has put on external PMB - just click on them.   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 09:13
|- - PASTMYBEST   QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 28 May 2019 - ...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 09:19
- - h3lp   No problem, here we go thank you for your help   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 09:43
- - PASTMYBEST   Send this now To Mr Simpson Dear Mr Simpson re...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 10:03
- - h3lp   Thank you so much! Email sent!   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 10:30
- - hcandersen   Have you actually sent it? If not, then wait.   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 11:14
- - h3lp   yeh i emailed it straight away. why whats up?   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 11:20
- - hcandersen   A matter of preference. I would have included.. ...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 11:58
- - h3lp   OK thank you for your additional insight i'll...   Tue, 28 May 2019 - 12:27
- - h3lp   Hi All, The council have written and rejected the...   Thu, 6 Jun 2019 - 13:14
- - SurreyNorthern   Long time lurker, but I'm pretty sure that cla...   Thu, 6 Jun 2019 - 14:30
- - PASTMYBEST   You need to show us all of all the documents. When...   Thu, 6 Jun 2019 - 18:07
- - DancingDad   Personally I would write back again. Dear Sirs Re...   Sat, 8 Jun 2019 - 09:41
- - h3lp   Thank you! I love this site Will report back   Sun, 9 Jun 2019 - 08:08
- - h3lp   Hi All, The council are still playing hardball - ...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 05:50
- - hcandersen   OP, it is irritating that you leave off the tops a...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 07:29
- - h3lp   Sorry - i've checked and the letters are comin...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 08:34
- - stamfordman   Who is the registered keeper - if it's your co...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 09:00
- - h3lp   its on finance lease to a friend. shall i ask him...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 09:30
- - stamfordman   QUOTE (h3lp @ Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 10...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 10:07
- - h3lp   yeh when i used to get tickets on my leased van, t...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 11:10
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (h3lp @ Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 12...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 13:54
|- - DancingDad   QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 14...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 15:24
- - h3lp   Thanks - do you think i'm better just letting ...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 15:51
- - stamfordman   QUOTE (h3lp @ Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 16...   Tue, 18 Jun 2019 - 15:56
- - cp8759   I would take this all the way. They've mis-sta...   Wed, 19 Jun 2019 - 08:25
- - h3lp   Hi All, NTO has arrived. Can someone please advi...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 19:11
- - hcandersen   its on finance lease to a friend. So pl be exact...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 19:21
- - PASTMYBEST   What's the date of the NTO and who is it addre...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 19:22
- - h3lp   16 07 19 is the date on the letter and it's ad...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 19:37
|- - PASTMYBEST   QUOTE (h3lp @ Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 20...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 19:41
- - h3lp   Yeh the email from the lease company also came wit...   Fri, 19 Jul 2019 - 20:14
- - h3lp   Can anyone advise on what our reply should be? Ar...   Sun, 21 Jul 2019 - 06:32
- - hcandersen   Post this letter pl, just omit personal details bu...   Sun, 21 Jul 2019 - 07:38
- - h3lp   Thank you hcandersen, there were two letters - on...   Mon, 22 Jul 2019 - 06:43
- - hcandersen   You do NOTHING because there is nothing for you to...   Mon, 22 Jul 2019 - 08:01
- - cp8759   Sorry to have to call you out on this hcandersen, ...   Mon, 22 Jul 2019 - 15:47
- - h3lp   OK thanks for the input. The letter from lease co...   Fri, 26 Jul 2019 - 10:35
|- - PASTMYBEST   QUOTE (h3lp @ Fri, 26 Jul 2019 - 11...   Fri, 26 Jul 2019 - 12:00
- - hcandersen   @cp ?? You misgivings are way out: ) The lease co...   Fri, 26 Jul 2019 - 21:31
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (hcandersen @ Fri, 26 Jul 2019 - 2...   Sat, 27 Jul 2019 - 17:02
- - h3lp   i need to do something about this one - is there a...   Mon, 29 Jul 2019 - 05:53
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (h3lp @ Mon, 29 Jul 2019 - 06...   Mon, 29 Jul 2019 - 12:42
- - hcandersen   The first of the two posted letters seems clear: i...   Mon, 29 Jul 2019 - 08:46
- - h3lp   hi chaps, i emailed the lease company asking for c...   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 16:18
- - disgrunt   Phone them?   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 16:34
- - PASTMYBEST   What is the last letter from the council Post it h...   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 16:42
- - cp8759   Don't lose track of the fact that if you don...   Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 17:06
- - h3lp   guys im genuinely not being lazy here, im just doi...   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 - 11:16
- - hcandersen   OP, can we just review where we are pl. You are d...   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 - 13:44
- - cp8759   Well regardless of what hcandersen might think, we...   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 - 15:53
- - h3lp   Thank you so much I will update again they reject   Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 07:38
- - hcandersen   Well regardless of what hcandersen might think, we...   Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 08:15
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (hcandersen @ Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 09...   Thu, 8 Aug 2019 - 17:36
- - h3lp   Hi All, Quick update, the council backed down aft...   Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 06:36
- - hcandersen   Well done. Pl post their letter and, just out of...   Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 10:06
- - cp8759   QUOTE (hcandersen @ Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 1...   Sat, 24 Aug 2019 - 17:07


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