NIP but don't recall the alleged event |
NIP but don't recall the alleged event |
Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:24
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 24 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,033 |
My apologies if this has been dealt with in another thread. I did take a look but couldn't find anything particularly relevant.
NIP arrived in post alleging 40mph in a 30mph area specifying date and time. I don't recall this (not that I would have to, you might say), but doubt it took place as alleged. There's little doubt that I would have been driving at he time mentioned, so that's not in question. Any pertinent advice would be welcomed as to what the next step should be. |
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Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:24
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Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Well it's quite handy that they are only asking for who was driving at the time...
However, usual advice is to first ask for a photo to assist in the identification of the driver - they usually supply. It is far more likely you were speeding. What's the location? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:32
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 24 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,033 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - September 2018 Date of the NIP: - 9 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 11 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A167 Stamfordham Road, between A1 and Silver Lonnen junction, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I do not recall the alleged event. I am sure, if it did happen, I would have been the driver. I doubt I was doing the speed alleged in the area specified and - if I was - the manned camera may have even been hardly visible. NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:32:39 +0000 |
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Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:32
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 24 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,033 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - September 2018 Date of the NIP: - 9 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 11 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A167 Stamfordham Road, between A1 and Silver Lonnen junction, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I do not recall the alleged event. I am sure, if it did happen, I would have been the driver. I doubt I was doing the speed alleged in the area specified and - if I was - the manned camera may have even been hardly visible. NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered: Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:32:41 +0000 |
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Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:53
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 24 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,033 |
Thanks for that. I suppose that would be in a separate letter without supplying the S172, right?
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Mon, 24 Sep 2018 - 12:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Thanks for that. I suppose that would be in a separate letter without supplying the S172, right? Yes, do not reply to the s172 as you wouldn't be asking for a photo's to assist... The 28 days to respond does not stop though. Looking at the location, I can understand why some may think it's a higher limit than 30. (But the streetlighting makes it a restricted road of 30mph) -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 1 Oct 2018 - 10:15
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 24 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,033 |
Yes exactly. I intend to make this clear as some point as well. In terms of the request for a photo should this be done in writing by snail mail?
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Mon, 1 Oct 2018 - 10:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,503 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Yes exactly. I intend to make this clear as some point as well. If you mean the limit (streetlighting), it doesn't give you a defence. In terms of the request for a photo should this be done in writing by snail mail? Usually post or you could ring them and ask. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Tue, 2 Oct 2018 - 12:48
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Member Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: 16 Mar 2013 From: Suffolk Member No.: 60,578 |
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" I doubt I was doing the speed alleged in the area specified and - if I was - the manned camera may have even been hardly visible." That is more or less an admission of guilt. "If I was......." implies it was unfair because you couldn't see a speed camera - no defence at all. Speed is an absolute offence so "if I was" implies you admit that you may have been speeding. |
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