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Lowrey72
post Thu, 14 Feb 2019 - 22:24
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: -
Date of the NIP: -
Date you received the NIP: -
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): -
Was the NIP addressed to you? -
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? -
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? -
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons -

NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - Yes
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England
- Yes
- Yes
- Yes

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:

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Starworshipper12
post Thu, 14 Feb 2019 - 23:02
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Try the wizard again but this time use the additional questions button.
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Lowrey72
post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 18:43
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[topic"66 in 40 variable speed limit"]

Thanks Starworshipper12, tried the additional questions again with errors so posting it all here...

Date of Incident: 18/08/2018
Date of NIP: 20/08/2018
Date received NIP: 21/08/2018
Received plea/MC110 form: 14/02/2019

HADECS3 camera images 5.58pm 18/08/2018, charge of exceeding a variable speed limit, 66mph in 40 limit. Dry road conditions, relatively light traffic & clear visibility for a good distance. Long drive home after family funeral & visit to my really poorly dad; I simply didn't register the red circle around the variable speed limit from 60 to 40 until too late - slowed along with nearby traffic and was expecting to see a possible incident up ahead, which of course there wasn't... There's no excuse for speeding, I was preoccupied, total stupidity & not applying full concentration.

Any constructive advice can only help:

I'm facing @ 6 points, hefty fine & possible disqualification 7-56 days is that correct? (No previous convictions, clean driving licence). Disqualification could be a nightmare to maintain work & get kids to/from school/clubs. Single parent, no family or nearby friends to help, limited bus services & using taxi's would be a massive cost...

Would a “guilty 'I do not want to come to court'” plea instead of 'guilty I want to come to court' be detrimental? Only considered not going as the public transport journey (in case of disqualification) would be interesting.

Had ruled out getting a barrister on cost - rethink this or at least get legal advice/barrister help with statement to magistrate?

'What do you want the magistrate to consider when making a decision about your guilty plea' – probably not admitting I was preoccupied - would setting out the circumstances of the journey & personal situation assist my case? As I said it’s my own fault, just looking for the best way to get a handle on this without losing my job or kids missing school.
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The Rookie
post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 18:53
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While a ban is possible, it’s very unlikely.

As you don’t have any substantial mitigation to offer then just submit a written letter of mitigation, suggest you post it here for a critique first as some ‘mitigation letters’ we see are more aggravating than mitigation!

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Lowrey72
post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 19:03
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Many thank The Rookie I'll certainly do that.
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post Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 20:10
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Fri, 15 Feb 2019 - 18:53) *
While a ban is possible, it’s very unlikely. As you don’t have any substantial mitigation to offer then just submit a written letter of mitigation, suggest you post it here for a critique first as some ‘mitigation letters’ we see are more aggravating than mitigation!


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