[NIP Wizard] NIP for Driving without due care and attention assistance |
[NIP Wizard] NIP for Driving without due care and attention assistance |
Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 18:29
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,391 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - August 2019 Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 6 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - Skimped Hill Lane, Bracknell, Berkshire Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I have been racking my brain for the last 2 hours to think about why this has been sent and genuinely cant pinpoint why. I drive on this road on the way to work. The NIP states I was driving on this road at 8:11am, however I usually get to work at 8:20am, sometimes later depending on traffic. It's at least 20 minutes from this road to my place of work. Will the constabulary provide information at this stage to detail the nature of the offence? NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 18:29:30 +0000 |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 19:06
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
You are only being asked at this stage to name the driver. Is there actually any doubt that it was you? It does not seem impossible that on the day in question, you got to work at 8.31 as you are sometimes late.
If you ring the police they may tell you what this is all about. -------------------- |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 19:39
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,508 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
The NIP states I was driving on this road at 8:11am No it doesn't. It states the vehicle was (allegedly) there - they are now asking for the driver to be nominated. As this is likely to be a member of the public reporting the time may not be 'exact' - 10 minutes here or there isn't going to be fatal. Due care/attention can be a number of things - perhaps not giving way, tailgating, undertaking etc. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 19:56
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,391 |
Thanks for the responses. I don't doubt that I was driving at the time specified, nor do I doubt that I was on the road mentioned at some point that morning as it's my usual route to work.
The time quoted threw me off because from that point it's a minimum of 20 minutes (with no traffic similar to at 6am/9pm rather than during rushour - I work in Reading so this is more likely to be 30+ minutes at 8.11am to my place of work which wouldn't match up with my daily text to the other half to say I arrived safely - I've checked and I sent a message to say I arrived at that day, sent at 8.21am) I understand that this may be an estimated number but 8:11am is very precise. Anyway I've still not got any idea why this would have come through, however I'll call the police to clarify in the morning. Thanks for the feedback. |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 20:14
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,508 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Could be a number of reasons for the time - perhaps the other person had DashCam with an incorrect set time. Perhaps their watch was out or they looked at the time sometime afterwards or just guessed...
Try giving them a call but they may not say too much until the driver is confirmed. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 - 20:26
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Member No.: 24,123 |
You could check google maps timeline (or similar depending on phone etc).
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Sat, 24 Aug 2019 - 08:41
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 23 Aug 2019 Member No.: 105,391 |
So spoke with them this morning. They said they cant disclose what the allegation is but that someone has reported the vehicle either online or in a police station.
They asked if I was driving on that road at the time specified which I advised in my previous posts - they suggested I fill in section a to state I was the driver but also put that I wasnt there at that specific time. |
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Sat, 24 Aug 2019 - 17:41
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Member Group: Members Posts: 38,006 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
So spoke with them this morning. They said they cant disclose what the allegation is but that someone has reported the vehicle either online or in a police station. They asked if I was driving on that road at the time specified which I advised in my previous posts - they suggested I fill in section a to state I was the driver but also put that I wasnt there at that specific time. Well obviously they can disclose the allegation if they want to (who's stopping them?) but they don't have to. To be honest I'd suggest you just name yourself, realistically to have accepted a report from a member of the public odds are there's a daschcam video and a few minutes either way are not going to make much difference. Indeed, if you're the only person who could have been driving, it's hard to see what difference it could make at all. -------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
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