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post Thu, 7 Mar 2019 - 09:26
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He's also hosting summits with world leaders there, so paying for facilities etc from the government purse.


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post Thu, 7 Mar 2019 - 09:27
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QUOTE (captain swoop @ Tue, 5 Mar 2019 - 23:06) *
South Korean intelligence officials have reported seeing new activity at North Korea's Tongchang-ri nuclear launch site.

Less than a week after President Donald Trump’s second summit with Kim Jong Un in Vietnam, South Korean intelligence officials report they have seen indications that North Korea is actively working at nuclear sites the country agreed to dismantle.

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectuali...n02FS3m5GNcUnA/


Dismantling would require 'new activity'.
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post Thu, 7 Mar 2019 - 18:08
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Would dismantling require new building work though?

NK have no intention of getting rid of their nukes. They have the President of the USA telling the world what a great guy the great leader is and holding one to one summits with them.
What do they gain by getting rid of them?

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post Wed, 3 Apr 2019 - 20:17
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Trump claimed noise from industrial wind turbines causes cancer.
He made the extraordinary claim while speaking at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner on Tuesday.
Video in link

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/donal...r-a4107841.html


In addition he said
"My father is German, was German. Born in a very wonderful place in Germany."
Fred Trump was born in New York.

At one point during that speech, he complained that someone would probably "leak the damn speech to the media".

It was being broadcast live on C-SPAN

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post Fri, 5 Apr 2019 - 04:52
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The 25th Amendment should be applied it seems.....

QUOTE (captain swoop @ Wed, 3 Apr 2019 - 20:17) *
"leak the damn speech to the media".

It was being broadcast live on C-SPAN

It's well known that no-one actually watches C-Span!

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Oranges!
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post Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 07:37
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Well I think now is a suitable time to resurrect this thread, reading the comments already posted, the current debacle that is the US calling itself a democracy wasn't exactly unpredictable!


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post Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:03
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Regardless of one'sown political persuasion, surely common-sense would be to do an open and transparent audit of the election? Then doubt will be removed (reduced in reality as some will never agree), but at least onlookers can see if there was anything awry.

Can't help being suspicious of those who resist such an approach - in our road-user perspective it's usually only the drink-drivers who resist random testing!
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post Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:29
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QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:03) *
Regardless of one'sown political persuasion, surely common-sense would be to do an open and transparent audit of the election

Indeed, and its been done.... to death Over 60 court cases failed for that reason, just the nutjobs refuse to accept any answer but the one they want.


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 09:29) *
...the nutjobs refuse to accept any answer but the one they want.


Thank God nothing like that would ever happen in this country... oh, hang on. laugh.gif
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post Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 17:44
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Yes but we haven’t had an armed militia storming parliament aiming for a revolution, their words not mine).


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:29) *
Indeed, and its been done.... to death Over 60 court cases failed for that reason, just the nutjobs refuse to accept any answer but the one they want.


reminds me of the Irish referendum on joining the EU. Keep at it until you get the answer you want!!!!!


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If you have any doubts over the mentality being dealt with...... (Sorry only place I can find this video)
https://twitter.com/colbertlateshow/status/...2336947200?s=21


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post Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 18:22
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:29) *
QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:03) *
Regardless of one'sown political persuasion, surely common-sense would be to do an open and transparent audit of the election

Indeed, and its been done.... to death Over 60 court cases failed for that reason, just the nutjobs refuse to accept any answer but the one they want.


They blocked a legal challenge, but I've not seen an open audit take place?
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post Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 19:05
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QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 18:22) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:29) *
QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:03) *
Regardless of one'sown political persuasion, surely common-sense would be to do an open and transparent audit of the election

Indeed, and its been done.... to death Over 60 court cases failed for that reason, just the nutjobs refuse to accept any answer but the one they want.


They blocked a legal challenge, but I've not seen an open audit take place?


https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020...lection-outcome




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Indeed. Evidence was not required in order for these people to believe the election was rigged, and evidence won’t make them believe it wasn’t.
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 19:05) *
QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 18:22) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:29) *
QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:03) *
Regardless of one'sown political persuasion, surely common-sense would be to do an open and transparent audit of the election

Indeed, and its been done.... to death Over 60 court cases failed for that reason, just the nutjobs refuse to accept any answer but the one they want.


They blocked a legal challenge, but I've not seen an open audit take place?


https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020...lection-outcome


Am I missing the 'open' aspect of this? This is 'the state' telling 'the public' all is well?
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post Tue, 12 Jan 2021 - 08:06
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The states ARE independent, many of those the Mango moron is targeting are Republican run states, they have counted the votes many times, they have audited them via vote slip matching, no more than a handful of dodgy ballets have been found (mostly in favour of the Chump). Who would then count as independent after that?

They have presented NO evidence in court at all of fraudulent ballots on any scale, despite the rhetoric none have been stupid enough to take a lie into court and risk being barred, not Powell, not Guilianni, Not Wood. It's all rhetoric for those lacking critical thought to swallow blindly.

The only court case the campaign won was a shortening of the permitted time to count votes in Pennsylvania, but they finished well within the rather pessimistic time anyway, one other case was dropped after the campaign had it's request satisfied before it even got to court with a minor change to how the count inspectors (auditors) were allowed to operate (for both parties).

There has never been any evidence of voter fraud, if the Republicans so much believe there should be this mythical independent audit why weren't they asking for it in 2016, or 12, or 08 etc?

Oh and 'States independence' is a huge rallying dry for the righter wing of the Republican party and determining how they run their ballot is something specifically devolved to state level, if that's how they choose to run it you have to suck it up or drop the 'states Independence', they are mutually exclusive!

A Confederate (traitors to the USA after all) battle flag being carried through the Capitol building in the interests of 'USA'...the irony!


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QUOTE (TMC Towcester @ Mon, 11 Jan 2021 - 08:03) *
Regardless of one'sown political persuasion, surely common-sense would be to do an open and transparent audit of the election? Then doubt will be removed (reduced in reality as some will never agree), but at least onlookers can see if there was anything awry.

Can't help being suspicious of those who resist such an approach - in our road-user perspective it's usually only the drink-drivers who resist random testing!

There will be many who are never satisfied. An audit which confirms what we know (no widespread fraud) will only be more "proof" of a corrupt "deep state".

Further, there is NO NEED for such a thing. Those advocating it are guilty of circular logic. "Many people" are saying there was fraud. But trace it back, and it all comes down to one person (and his enablers) who started the whole allegation without evidence. The same people who are calling for an audit are those who spread the unfounded allegation in the first place.

63 lost lawsuits so far. And, strangely, those cases have not actually alleged fraud (except in the preamble). When you look at the detail, fraud is not mentioned. That's because they know there is no case, and lying to the court, rather than in a press conference, has serious consequences.
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post Tue, 12 Jan 2021 - 08:57
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Sigh................usual/typical/expected response.

'Open' isn't the same as independent. Open = visible in this context. Moroever, as we're seeing here, (most) folk no longer take 'the authorities' at their word. swallow blindly indeed.
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