NCP - Railway Station PCN |
NCP - Railway Station PCN |
Fri, 21 Jun 2019 - 22:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5 Jan 2016 Member No.: 81,565 |
Hi everyone,
I'm after reassurance that this current thinking is correct in response to an NCP PCN please. Facts: - Driver parked in a railway station car park - Driver had a ticket - Driver parked outside of a bay - Windscreen PCN is for 'Not parked correctly within a bay space' Process: 1. Wait until day 26 and appeal online 2. Appeal using the MSE newbie text:
3. Wait for rejection response from NCP, follow up with appeal. 4. Wait and see if NTK arrives by day 56 Does that sound correct as a starter please? Thanks in advance! |
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Sat, 22 Jun 2019 - 07:42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
Not that wretched Parking Cowboys letter again ?
Is it a Penalty Notice under the Railway Byelaws or a Parking Notice ? If it's a Penalty Notice, do not respond to a windscreen ticket Wait for the Notice to Owner to arrive and appeal that at the last possible moment The strategy is to drag the case out past six months when no prosecution will be possible If it's a Parking Notice, search some threads for the much better Ostell letter for situations, like railway stations, when a company can't use the Protection of Freedoms Act to recover payment from the keeper if it doesn't know who was driving |
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Sun, 23 Jun 2019 - 10:53
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5 Jan 2016 Member No.: 81,565 |
Hi Redivi,
Thanks for the reply. The letter was just from Moneysavingexpert's newbies section. It was a screen ticket in a railway station car park, so I believe its covered under railway byelaws. I've seen the Ostell letter now (thanks), am I right in thinking I now wait for NTK to arrive and respond with Ostell's letter then? Thanks again for the help. |
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Sun, 23 Jun 2019 - 12:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 4,126 Joined: 31 Jan 2018 Member No.: 96,238 |
It was a screen ticket in a railway station car park, so I believe its covered under railway byelaws.
No The railway station is covered by the Byelaws but parking companies choose whether to issue Penalty Notices under the Byelaws or Parking Notices under contract law NCP usually but not always issues Parking Notices Only the wording of the Notice tells you which I've seen the Ostell letter now (thanks), am I right in thinking I now wait for NTK to arrive and respond with Ostell's letter then? Yes |
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Mon, 24 Jun 2019 - 20:04
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5 Jan 2016 Member No.: 81,565 |
So, do I need to check the signage at the station regarding the byelaws?
Thanks again! |
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Wed, 26 Jun 2019 - 08:12
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Yes, because it would obviously help to knwo what the signs do and dont say anyway, as it is ONLY the signs that can convey any offer of a contract OR inform you of the byelaws in play, or both.
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Wed, 24 Jul 2019 - 20:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5 Jan 2016 Member No.: 81,565 |
A 'Parking Charge - Notice to Keeper' has now arrived. No note on there of byelaws.
Is the tactic still to appeal as late as possible with Ostell letter in this scenario? Thank you for your help! |
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Wed, 24 Jul 2019 - 23:05
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Member Group: Members Posts: 488 Joined: 21 Aug 2016 Member No.: 86,563 |
Yes
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Thu, 25 Jul 2019 - 09:57
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28,687 Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Member No.: 15,642 |
Pictures of signs?
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Mon, 5 Aug 2019 - 23:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5 Jan 2016 Member No.: 81,565 |
Sorry, I'm not near that station for the next 3 or 4 weeks as I am away I'll grab a picture when I am back there for more information.
Thanks! |
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Tue, 6 Aug 2019 - 06:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 17,088 Joined: 8 Mar 2013 Member No.: 60,457 |
So you appealed the windscreen ticket as the keeper on day 26 and you now have a NTK ?
If that is the case then email to the DVLA asking who has requested your details, from the date of the incident to today. Address is in the forum, in the form Subject.Accessrequest@dvla.gov Just to see if they got your details from the DVLA |
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Thu, 22 Aug 2019 - 16:58
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Member Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 5 Jan 2016 Member No.: 81,565 |
Hi All,
I'm back from holiday now. The order of events was, windscreen ticket received and ignored. NTK then turned up, I appealed with your template Ostell (thank you). I've come home to a letter from NCP saying they have "requested the cancellation of this notice" and that "No further action is required from you in respect of the PCN. You may now treat this matter as closed." It took them around a week to respond. Thanks for your assistance with all this everyone, perfect outcome! |
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