3 NIP's received - Advice needed, 3 separate NIP's same place over a 3 week period |
3 NIP's received - Advice needed, 3 separate NIP's same place over a 3 week period |
Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 14:47
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,465 |
Some advice please...
I've received 3 separate NIP's, same camera I think, exceeding 40mph, very early in the morning heading to work (new job, don't know the area) camera doesn't flash, I'm in a hire car so by the time the 1st NIP got to me, I'd already been caught 3 times Is Court the only option? |
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 14:52
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
We need more information to be able to advise.
What were the speeds? How many points have you already got? Done a speed awareness course in the last 3 years |
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 14:58
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,465 |
I've zero points. So this would mean potentially 9 points
Yes, I've completed a speed awareness course within 3 years Speeds were 52, 51 & 46 |
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
So yes that will be 9 points. Won't go to court unless you want it to, however you won't get less than 3 points for each offence.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:04
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,465 |
So it's either take the points on the chin or contest in court?
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:08
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
Pretty much, but what would use in court as a defence? Do you have any reason to believe the speeds detected to be incorrect or that the speed limit signage is defective in any way?
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:12
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,465 |
The road is a mixture of national speed limit average cameras, 50 mph average cameras and 40 mph cameras
It's just a bitter pill to swallow as I would have obviously been aware of them the 1st time, though it caught me a further 2 times before I was actually aware of the offence |
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:16
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
There is no requirement on the authorities to make speed cameras visible. So going to court will almost certainly result in the same 9 points but the fines and costs will be way higher then the fixed penalty total.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:23
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 4 Nov 2019 Member No.: 106,465 |
So on the chin it is then by the looks of things. Just didn't know if the courts offer any kind of descretion
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 15:32
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Member Group: Members Posts: 6,723 Joined: 3 Apr 2006 From: North Hampshire Member No.: 5,183 |
Unlikely, they will follow the sentencing guidelines.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 17:18
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
You could write and ask them to consider dropping one or two of the offences on the basis you didn’t get notification to rectify your behaviour before the first NIP arrived.
They don’t have to but don’t ask don’t get. You are expected to drive within the limit at all times and don’t need ‘warnings’. The court would have to endorse at least 3 points for each. Could there be more? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sat, 16 Nov 2019 - 18:59
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,572 Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Member No.: 36,528 |
Yes, I've completed a speed awareness course within 3 years What is important is not when you did the course but whether the offence for which you did it was within three years -------------------- |
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