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[NIP Wizard] NIP 3 Months Late!
chubby.boy
post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 11:45
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NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? -
Date of the offence: - July 2018
Date of the NIP: - 84 days after the offence
Date you received the NIP: - 87 days after the offence
Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - M6 Houghton Travelling South
Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes
Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Second
If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? -
How many current points do you have? - 0
Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - The day I bought the car drove it back down to London from Scotland. Was clocked at 80 in a 70. Honestly was messing around with cruise control and just didn't pay attention.

Says 'manned equipment'

It says I 'could' be offered a course but what are chances of this?


NIP Wizard Responses
These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation:
Have you received a NIP? - Yes
Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes
Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - No
Was there a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival? - Unsure
Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - No
Were you driving? - Yes
Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England

NIP Wizard Recommendation
Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
  • The law requires you to provide the information requested in the Section 172 notice within the 28 day period, naming yourself as the driver. If you are considering obtaining formal legal advice, do so before returning the notice.

    You should note that there is nothing to be gained by responding any earlier than you have to at any stage of the process. You are likely to receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty (COFP) and further reminder(s). If you want to continue the fight, you should ignore all correspondence from the police until you receive a summons. You need to understand from the outset that while you will receive much help and support from members on the forums, you will need to put time and effort into fighting your case and ultimately be prepared to stand up in court to defend yourself.

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AntonyMMM
post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 11:50
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Assuming you are eligible (i.e. haven't done a course in the last 3 years) then in England/Wales you will be offered one for that speed. ... you are only 1mph above the usual start of enforcement.

The only issue is you need to get your reply back quickly - course offers are time limited, usually about four months after the offence (to give time to start court proceedings if you don't attend the course) and you are already at three months.

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post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 11:55
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There is a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival, in that having just bought the car you were obviously not the registered keeper at that time, so the first NIP would have gone to the previous owner. As advised above get the reply off ASAP and cross your fingers, failing a course, you should get a fixed penalty.


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chubby.boy
post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 12:04
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What is the chance of getting 6 points on this?
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post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 12:23
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QUOTE (chubby.boy @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 13:04) *
What is the chance of getting 6 points on this?


No chance at all for the speeding .... only becomes possible if you failed to name the driver (a more serious offence)

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chubby.boy
post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 16:37
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Cheers everyone. Called them and was honest. They said it's going to be a course. No fine or points. Phew
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post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 17:00
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QUOTE (chubby.boy @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 17:37) *
Cheers everyone. Called them and was honest. They said it's going to be a course. No fine or points. Phew


You still need to send the form back, completed and signed, ASAP.
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post Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 19:07
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QUOTE (Logician @ Thu, 18 Oct 2018 - 12:55) *
There is a valid reason for the NIP's late arrival, in that having just bought the car you were obviously not the registered keeper at that time, so the first NIP would have gone to the previous owner.


If we assume that the OP bought the car privately, that would be a very reasonable assumption. However, if the OP bought the car from a dealer, and if it was showing as being "in trade", then I would not suggest discounting the possibility of a late NIP defence.


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