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61mph in 50mph limit, M25 - Mistaken identity?
michael8626
post Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 21:46
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Hi,

I received a NIP forty four days after the alleged offence. My car is leased. I wrote a letter asking for them to cancel it (14 days) Surrey Police state the NIP was sent out in accordance with the law. I presume this to be correct?

I was travelling on the M25 at 0.50 am back in May. My speed limiter was set to 60mph due to multiple 60mph signs appearing on the gantries.

Travelling under a certain gantry I saw a flash from behind as a camera activated. I vividly remember a vehicle overtaking me, travelling in the outside lane to my right, a Ford Galaxy taxi, marked Addison Lee. As the vehicle passed me its brake lights were on and I thought that was the vehicle that had triggered the camera. In the evidence section on the Surrey Police website, this vehicle is clearly visible in the pictures and you can see the high level brake light is illuminated.

Is it possible I have received a NIP for this vehicle, have we both activated cameras? Is it possible for me to find this out? Will Surrey Police tell me, can I use Freedom of Information?

I am adamant I was travelling in accordance with the speed limit. Surrey Police have stated I triggered a camera in a 50mph limit. I dispute this.

Are they legally obliged to produce clear photographic evidence of my vehicle travelling under a gantry that states 50mph? Picture 3 on their evidence systems looks vaguely like a gantry but it is too dark and blurred to be decipherable?

Can I also ask Highways to supply me with all temporary speed limits in operation on the M25 at the time of the alleged offence? Again if they refuse, can you use Freedom of Information?

Thank you all in advance.

Michael
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- michael8626   61mph in 50mph limit, M25 - Mistaken identity?   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 21:46
- - NewJudge   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 2...   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 21:59
|- - michael8626   QUOTE (NewJudge @ Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 22...   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 22:13
- - Jlc   Only the 1st NIP has the 14 day requirement. Rega...   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 22:07
- - Jlc   HADECS3 has an auxiliary shot of the limit. HADEC...   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 22:16
|- - michael8626   QUOTE (Jlc @ Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 23:16...   Mon, 6 Aug 2018 - 22:54
- - Logician   They obviously have a clear enough picture to be a...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 01:09
- - kernow2015   The picture says lane 2 - can you remember how ma...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 05:29
- - michael8626   Yes, I was in lane 2, the vehicle overtaking me wa...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 07:39
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 0...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 07:47
|- - michael8626   QUOTE (Jlc @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 08:47...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 08:00
|- - The Rookie   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 0...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 08:43
- - Logician   We are assured that interlocks on the system mean ...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 09:21
- - Jlc   My guess would be the sign in question was display...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 09:32
- - michael8626   Thanks everyone. I was the driver, I have informe...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 10:04
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 1...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 10:28
|- - Jlc   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 1...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 10:38
- - nosferatu1001   My understanding is that they do not have to provi...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 10:07
- - Logician   Yes you are mad, they are unlikely to give you any...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 10:28
- - michael8626   I was made redundant earlier this year after 24 ye...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 11:15
- - Logician   Well you are entitled to your day in court, and I ...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 11:35
- - michael8626   Thanks for the vote of confidence! 😂 I am ...   Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 22:51
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 2...   Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 00:22
|- - Logician   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 2...   Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 09:28
- - NewJudge   QUOTE (michael8626 @ Tue, 7 Aug 2018 - 2...   Wed, 8 Aug 2018 - 10:26
- - notmeatloaf   Whilst it is certainly good you have conviction an...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 14:53
|- - 666   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 1...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 15:53
||- - cp8759   QUOTE (666 @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 16:53...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 19:01
|- - Colin_S   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 1...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 11:25
- - Jlc   The Type Approval is silent on any such requiremen...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 15:11
- - The Rookie   It can.... there was an old M25 Gatso case, the ca...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 16:06
- - notmeatloaf   To get type approval you need to prove the camera ...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 19:35
|- - southpaw82   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 2...   Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 20:18
|- - notmeatloaf   QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Thu, 9 Aug 2018 - 21...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 13:35
|- - southpaw82   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - ...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 14:29
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 1...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 15:45
||- - southpaw82   QUOTE (cp8759 @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 16...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 18:45
|- - Mayhem007   QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 1...   Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 11:27
- - NewJudge   QUOTE (Colin_S @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 12...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 12:49
- - The Rookie   I believe that was the gentlemen with the unpronou...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 14:34
- - notmeatloaf   There is a common law presumption that machines ar...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 20:03
|- - cp8759   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - ...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 20:06
||- - notmeatloaf   QUOTE (cp8759 @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 21...   Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 14:03
||- - southpaw82   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - ...   Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 14:47
|||- - notmeatloaf   QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 1...   Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 16:23
||- - cp8759   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - ...   Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 21:58
||- - notmeatloaf   QUOTE (cp8759 @ Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 22...   Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 22:14
||- - cp8759   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - ...   Fri, 17 Aug 2018 - 23:46
|- - southpaw82   QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - ...   Fri, 10 Aug 2018 - 20:08
- - southpaw82   This is feeling like a case where expert evidence ...   Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 16:45
- - notmeatloaf   QUOTE (southpaw82 @ Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 1...   Sun, 12 Aug 2018 - 17:07


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