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Neil B
Posted on: Yesterday, 23:25


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This is the GSV from the start of the street.
Show us exactly where?

The bay on the right is 20 min type and probably that referred to in the original Gazette notice (and, presumably the Order)
but you've referred to a single space bay?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5510559,0...6384!8i8192


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Neil B
Posted on: Yesterday, 19:57


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The notices for new 20 min bays are in those concerning car club bays as well.
I can see them for other zones but not Forest Gate North.

Lots more info on this but busy at mo.
It's quieter on here weekends B.
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Neil B
Posted on: Yesterday, 18:55


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And you have a copy of what you submitted?
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Neil B
Posted on: Yesterday, 14:13


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QUOTE (DJ1 @ Fri, 14 Dec 2018 - 13:59) *

Ahem ! laugh.gif
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Neil B
Posted on: Yesterday, 12:49


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I'm +1 as well but Enrique, you might want to tell us exactly what is on your V5C ?
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 - 20:28


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Sister got one a while back.
There's a wording flaw somewhere - can't remember.
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 - 13:15


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QUOTE (TigerRob @ Thu, 13 Dec 2018 - 12:51) *
QUOTE (Neil B @ Thu, 13 Dec 2018 - 12:22) *
It's complicated by being a statement on a non-statutory rejection, i.e. you have no right of informal challenge under
the farcical 1996/2000 legislation and neither do they have to respond. So does it count?

The council don't have to respond, but surely if they choose to respond their response must be accurate?

Would be part of the potential argument, yes Rob, but whether an adjudicator embraces it is another matter.
Ditto if they'd invited informal challenges in the first place.

It might be a lever to secure an adjudicators acceptance of OP's prime case of mitigation, which is, so far, hard
to prove.
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Neil B
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QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 23:08) *
QUOTE (stamfordman @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 22:42) *
QUOTE (notmeatloaf @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 22:30) *
the lowest denominator - in my case a Pakistani who clearly hasn't mastered the art of driving in cities other than Kabul,



How did you know he was from Pakistan, given that Kabul is the capital of Afghanistan?

Because I couldn't be bothered to look up the capital of Pakistan.

Is as far as I got in this thread and your credibility (working in the NHS FFS !?) just left the building.
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 - 12:22


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QUOTE (Twistededge @ Wed, 12 Dec 2018 - 22:01) *
QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 12 Dec 2018 - 18:47) *
Nothing wrong with the letter it explains what will happen and when correctly.
This part seems off...

"If you do not pay the outstanding Penalty Charge amount, or make a formal representation within 28 days from the date of issue of the Penalty Charge Notice, and Enforcement Notice may be issued"

This means I cannot make a formal representation because (1) I received the rejection letter (for the informal representation) outside of the 28 days and (2) have not received the Enforcement Notice yet. The language isn't clear.

I initially dismissed your idea, having not read properly but now that you've flagged the sentence, actually, you're right and I see that
it then goes on to contradict itself by giving you the correct info. Yes, potentially confusing.

Whether it would fly is another matter.

It's complicated by being a statement on a non-statutory rejection, i.e. you have no right of informal challenge under
the farcical 1996/2000 legislation and neither do they have to respond. So does it count?

Did the PCN invite challenges?
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Neil B
Posted on: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 - 11:34


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I'm +1
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Neil B
Posted on: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 14:56


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QUOTE (Lancaster @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 14:28) *
When asked What address were they ‘given ?‘
The logical thing to do is to ask the giver not least because the
Giver already knows who he is - WestMin don’t and revealing that
Might be against his best interest:)

Oh, I shouldn't but future readers might pay heed to your nonsense.

You ask advice, we give it, you decide something else is better and get nowhere.
You finally do as suggested and bam, case closed.

As for "best interests" bit; WM and the bailiff knew who they were pursuing; his name's on
a Court warrant !



QUOTE (Lancaster @ Sat, 8 Dec 2018 - 19:12) *
Marston letter has Op name, town, county and post code

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Neil B
Posted on: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 13:38


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QUOTE (Lancaster @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 11:53) *
I was asked to get him to ask the
hire company
No, you were not !

Now if the instruction is to call WestMin
I will get him to do that


QUOTE (Neil B @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 00:26) *
First ports of call>

-- TEC (the Court) -- 0300 123 1059. What address was the debt registered at?
-- Westminster -- What address were they given by the hire co. (assuming liability was transferred to your friend, the hirer)

Then we can get going.


Well done though, eventually rolleyes.gif

Note what Tiger Rob has said.
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Neil B
Posted on: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 11:41


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Anyone considered that this was hand delivered, other than by post, Marstons' rather efficient
tracing Dept having done their work?

QUOTE (Lancaster @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 10:23) *
Friend spoke to hire firm who agreed
They had passed his full details over to
WestMin upon receipt of the PCN
He has this verbally
Does he need docs? Has asked for these
And being recovered from archive as
16months old
Hire firm told him call WestMin seek to have
Ticket reset but I’ve said hold off
Please advise next step
Thanks

You are phaffing around. I advised you to tell him to ask WM what address the hire co. supplied, not to
ask the party who are, frankly, more likely to be culpable. (ok, speculative but a presumption that gave
a more likely successful starting point)

Also -
What address was on the hire agreement?
On his driving licence?
Billing address?

Whichever of the above the hire co used.

----

And it follows that, if WM say they received the full address from hire co. you then ask what address
the PCN and subsequent notices were sent to.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 14:46


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QUOTE (Neil B @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 14:22) *
QUOTE (Lancaster @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 11:41) *
Checked with Westmin - the PCN is not recognised

That's not possible if TEC have it registered (by WM) as a debt.

It will be WE followed by 8 digits.
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Neil B
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QUOTE (Lancaster @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 11:41) *
Checked with Westmin - the PCN is not recognised

That's not possible if TEC have it registered (by WM) as a debt.
QUOTE (Lancaster @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 11:41) *
TEC suggested completing a Stat Dec form and asking the council to bring claim back to original?!

It's forms and yes, that's where we're leading but he needs the relevant facts first.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 10:50


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QUOTE (Lancaster @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 10:28) *
TEC the court - when we call what ref do we use - the Westminster one?

Yes, as that's probably the PCN number.
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Neil B
Posted on: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 00:26


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I am not in any way doubting you or your friend but you posted in such a way as to appear to be 'playing games',
i.e. "the Op", as others have done, thinking they need to hide liability. Had you explained this was for a friend
we could have got on with it.
But, as you are posting on behalf of a friend, some reassurance they will SEE and understand our responses rather
than you interpreting them and relating them to him/her.

This appears, at face value, to be a case of the hire co. supplying an incomplete address to WMCC and that should be your
first point of enquiry.
Let's clarify something first: If your friend was the person signing the hire agreement then THEY are legally liable,
irrespective of who was driving.

NO, they cannot ignore it; the next stage will add £235 to the debt! But I can't see a deadline on that notice?

First ports of call>

-- TEC (the Court) -- 0300 123 1059. What address was the debt registered at?
-- Westminster -- What address were they given by the hire co. (assuming liability was transferred to your friend, the hirer)

Then we can get going.
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Neil B
Posted on: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 18:24


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Ok, last try.

Are you Op?
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Neil B
Posted on: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 12:29


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QUOTE (Vaultofgrass @ Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 12:22) *
Also, by appealing am I essentially agreeing to go to court and appeal in person? Not that I wouldn't, but I don't do well under pressure and have never done anything like this.

It's nothing like that.

As HCA said, we need to see the Council rejection.
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Neil B
Posted on: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 - 11:18


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Hold on.
You are not at representations stage; this is an appeal to the adjudicator.

I'm not awake yet. I'm sure others will explain what to do.
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Neil B
Posted on: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 - 19:18


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What does 'Op' mean?

Who is being pursued?
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Neil B
Posted on: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 - 15:21


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+1
But one thing I found irritating was the inconsistency of enforcement: The camera operator had
every opportunity to zoom for the VRM of the car behind, a worse offender imo, but didn't?
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Neil B
Posted on: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 - 15:16


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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sat, 8 Dec 2018 - 15:04) *
Just a cautionary note on video viewing.
TPT adjudicators seem to accept that information re video viewing online satisfies spirit if not the wording.

Even when, as here, that facility doesn't work?

But a question for Vault.
Did you pm the details to Stamfordman or cp8759 so they could check for vid?
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Neil B
Posted on: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 - 22:20


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QUOTE (hcandersen @ Fri, 7 Dec 2018 - 22:06) *
The information must be included in a PCN. No ifs or buts, it must be. The exact words need not be used, but the substance must be conveyed.

I can see 'In most cases you can view footage..'

B******s.

Will you pl just post in a new post that or those parts of the PCN which convey the regulatory requirements. You've got the PCN, so I suggest you read it pl.

+1
I've had to blow images up and scroll around but I can't find it.

Case in hand; you're entitled to view vid through set statutory means yet you didn't know until HCA told you.
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Neil B
Posted on: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 - 16:43


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QUOTE (Neil B @ Fri, 7 Dec 2018 - 14:23) *
QUOTE (stonesy @ Fri, 16 Nov 2018 - 13:51) *
The bailiff are asking for £430

It can't be.

£408 maybe?

At that level it's always worth filing an OOT, just on the off-chance the Council forget to object to it.
But you need to be both quick and very careful with the wording.
There are numerous examples here but only as a general guide on format. Don't c&p anything other
than specific to you.

Your circumstances are not good, as Incandescent explained; especially that you still haven't/didn't update V5
for 5-6 months even after your final move.
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