Doing an act tending and intending to pervert the course of public justice, Indictable offence, citizen's arrest question |
Doing an act tending and intending to pervert the course of public justice, Indictable offence, citizen's arrest question |
Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:18
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Jurisdiction: England and Wales
1) Is the offence of committing an act, here being the fabricating or disposing of evidence, tending and intending to PERVERT the course of public justice, an indictable offence? 2) If it is indeed an indictable offence, in what circumstances could a CITIZEN'S arrest of a person reasonably suspected by the arrestor of being guilty of that (already committed) offence be lawful? 3) Is the answer to 2) different if the person reasonably suspected of that offence a POLICE OFFICER, and the police are reasonably suspected by the arrestor of engaging or having engaged in a cover-up of a colleague, and therefore it is not practicable that a constable would make the arrest instead? Thank you. |
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Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:31
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Member Group: Members Posts: 13,735 Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Member No.: 14,720 |
This forum focuses on motoring offences.
You might find Legal Beagles more suited to your inquiry: https://legalbeagles.info/ -------------------- |
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Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:39
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Good luck effecting the arrest of a police officer
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Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:43
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Citizens Arrest for suspected PCOJ?
You 'aving a laff ? Sorry but I got to ask. AFAIK, citizens arrest can only be lawful when it is impractical for the police to make the arrest and is necessary to prevent injury, loss or damage to property or tp prevent escape. None of which can I see applying to PCOJ unless the suspect is doing a runner. I believe it is an indictable offense but that is not the only requirement |
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Thu, 25 Jan 2018 - 23:46
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
Citizens Arrest for suspected PCOJ? You 'aving a laff ? Sorry but I got to ask. AFAIK, citizens arrest can only be lawful when it is impractical for the police to make the arrest and is necessary to prevent injury, loss or damage to property or tp prevent escape. None of which can I see applying to PCOJ unless the suspect is doing a runner. I believe it is an indictable offense but that is not the only requirement Step one in any legal advice is "will it serve any useful purpose?". If no, don’t waste your time. In this case the answer is clearly no. -------------------- Moderator
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Fri, 26 Jan 2018 - 00:00
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Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Citizens Arrest for suspected PCOJ? You 'aving a laff ? Sorry but I got to ask. AFAIK, citizens arrest can only be lawful when it is impractical for the police to make the arrest and is necessary to prevent injury, loss or damage to property or tp prevent escape. None of which can I see applying to PCOJ unless the suspect is doing a runner. I believe it is an indictable offense but that is not the only requirement Step one in any legal advice is "will it serve any useful purpose?". If no, don’t waste your time. In this case the answer is clearly no. Ain't arguing SP, TBH I still think it is a wind up. |
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Fri, 26 Jan 2018 - 22:42
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Give it a try, it will almost certainly be the first successful citizen's arrest of plod.
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Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 19:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,860 Joined: 12 May 2012 Member No.: 54,871 |
I think the OP has been looking at FoTL sites - it's the sort of nonsense they'd come up with!
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Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 19:56
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Member Group: Members Posts: 33,610 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
If the OP goes ahead with it I hope it ends up on YouTube.
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Sun, 28 Jan 2018 - 20:04
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-------------------- If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
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