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cabbyman
post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 18:40
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I have been asked about a ticket received for parking on a white line. I have directed the enquirer to this site.

However, do the lines in the link convey any restriction?

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post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 19:05
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If they parked on the white line on the right, nothing the council could do. But the police can


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post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 19:12
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What grounds do the police have?


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post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 19:33
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QUOTE (cabbyman @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 19:12) *
What grounds do the police have?


unnecessary obstruction


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post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 19:44
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Thank you. Would that apply to other white lines behind the camera?

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post Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 22:10
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TSRGD 2016, Schedule 9, part 7, 9.

Not sure council can enforce but police can.
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post Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 08:23
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The Police wouldn't be enforcing the white line per se, but the manner of parking, the white line is advisory and if it wasn't there the Police could still take action for OU if applicable.


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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 08:23) *
The Police wouldn't be enforcing the white line per se, but the manner of parking, the white line is advisory and if it wasn't there the Police could still take action for OU if applicable.


Sorry but solid white lines are not advisory.
I gave the link to TSRGD relevant bit earlier
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No stopping or crossing white line marking
9.—(1) The requirements conveyed to vehicular traffic on roads by a road marking provided for at items 23 and 24 of the sign table in Part 6 of this Schedule are that—
(a)subject to sub-paragraphs (2) to (4), no vehicle is to stop on any length of road along which the marking has been placed at any point between the ends of the marking

Makes white line "dogbones" that are often seen across dropped kerbs more then advisory as well but as they are never cited as the contravention, mute.
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post Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 09:51
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 22:10) *
TSRGD 2016, Schedule 9, part 7, 9.


That reference is to the double white line system in the carriageway, not single white line at the edge.

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post Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 10:15
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Indeed........
The Para B you missed is below
No stopping or crossing white line marking
9.—(1) The requirements conveyed to vehicular traffic on roads by a road marking provided for at items 23 and 24 of the sign table in Part 6 of this Schedule are
that—
(a) subject to sub-paragraphs (2) to (4), no vehicle is to stop on any length of road along which the marking has been placed at any point between the ends of
the marking; and
(b) subject to sub-paragraph (5), every vehicle proceeding on any length of road along which the marking has been so placed, as viewed in the direction of
travel of the vehicle, a continuous line is on the left of a broken line or of another continuous line, must be so driven as to keep the first-mentioned
continuous line on the right hand or off side of the vehicle.

Erm hard to keep that line to the right/off side of the vehicle without driving on the footway!

The white lines in question are advisory


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post Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 10:48
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AFAIK the white lines are indeed advisory, but nothing to do with parking. They are edge-of-carriageway markers.

There is no mention in the Trafiic Signs Manual, or in "Know Your Traffic Signs", of such solid white lines in any other context.
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post Tue, 11 Dec 2018 - 10:58
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They have T-bar ends like those used as advisory 'possible obstruction' lines, so not just edge of carriageway lines.


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