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PCN 33c in Lewisham
HillDrive
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 11:20
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I have received a PCN 33c letter from lewisham council dated 18th Sep 2020. I didnot know that this restriction ever existed.

this was on road Manor Lane near Manor Park or Hither green area. google Streetview looks like this on google map (different from what it now looks like ).

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4512126,0...6384!8i8192

it is almost 14 days from the issue date of this PCN. I am worried to sick that I have to pay £130. What option do I have ?

what should I do if you think I should make an appeal ?

I have attached the all 4 pages of letter as below for your reference.

PCN1 = https://imgur.com/qlvTGZd
PCN2 = https://imgur.com/jJrwxhv
PCN4 = https://imgur.com/HcCxweq
PCN4 = https://imgur.com/KfDMn1J

Thank you very much for your help.

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post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 11:49
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Cant really give good advice without seeing the video. That is their sole evidence.
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HillDrive
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 11:55
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QUOTE (Incandescent @ Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:49) *
Cant really give good advice without seeing the video. That is their sole evidence.


thank you for your reply. how can I get hold of the video ?

also when is the end of 14 days of discount window of my PCN ?
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PASTMYBEST
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:22
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Contravention 22/08 notice date 19/09 I make that 29 days to issue and 32 days to serve ( perhaps 33 if posting could be shown not to be done on a Saturday )

They are only allowed to sere a PCN before the end of 28 days beginning with the date of contravention

If you own the car and the v5c is in your name and is the same address as is on the PCN this PCN is illegal


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Neil B
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:38
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QUOTE (HillDrive @ Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:20) *
it is almost 14 days from the issue date of this PCN.

You're two days beyond the discount deadline but PMB has solved your problem.

QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 13:22) *
Contravention 22/08 notice date 19/09 I make that 29 days to issue and 32 days to serve ( perhaps 33 if posting could be shown not to be done on a Saturday )

They are only allowed to sere a PCN before the end of 28 days beginning with the date of contravention

If you own the car and the v5c is in your name and is the same address as is on the PCN this PCN is illegal

Notice date was 18/9 and I think your counting is wonky but yeah, it's too late.


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Neil is good at working backwards.

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HillDrive
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:40
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 13:22) *
Contravention 22/08 notice date 19/09 I make that 29 days to issue and 32 days to serve ( perhaps 33 if posting could be shown not to be done on a Saturday )
They are only allowed to sere a PCN before the end of 28 days beginning with the date of contravention


apologies, 18/09 is the date of notice. does it make it 28 days of issuance (incl contravention date , 22/08) ? can I count the 18/09 (issue date)?

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If you own the car and the v5c is in your name and is the same address as is on the PCN this PCN is illegal


yes, I still own the car , v5c is in my name and address is same as is on PCN.

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HillDrive
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:54
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thank you very much indeed Neil N and PMB.

does it mean that I can ignore the PCN ?
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post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 12:55
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Send this


PCN number xxxxxx
VRm AA 23 BCD

(your details

Dear NSL

I make representations against the above PCN

The contravention occurred on the 22 of August 2020 The PCN was issued on the 18th of September this is some 29 days after the contravention

regulation 6(1) of the governing regulations allows only that

Subject to the provisions of this section, no penalty charge notice may be served under this Act after the expiry of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention or failure to comply occurred.

As I am the owner and the registered keeper of the vehicle and it is registered correctly at my address, none of the exempting provisions can apply.

The PCN has been both issued out of time and served out of time, and as such is invalid and enforcement of it cannot be pursued.

If it be, that I am forced to go to the tribunal to achieve this outcome in such overwhelming circumstances, I will surely seek indemnity for any cost


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HillDrive
post Sat, 3 Oct 2020 - 13:23
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much appreciated PMB. thanks a lot.

have sent it off.

Also thank you so very much to Neil and and Incandescent .
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manur
post Sun, 25 Oct 2020 - 02:00
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Did you receive a response from Lewisham Council regarding your pcn?
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