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MathewB
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 09:48
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Had an interesting letter through the post from Northamptonshire Police Safer Roads Team.

They are writing to advise me about the move to a smart motorway and the rules on the speed limits.

The reason for this question is that they state that they can now enforce the national speed limit as well as the variable speed limit with the overhead gantry cameras - is this legally correct?
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fedup2
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 09:55
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Any speed limit can enforced and its been common practice to enforce the 70mph limit with blank gantrys for quite some time.

The trigger speed is a true 79mph.
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NewJudge
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:02
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Just purely out of interest, why would you think it is not "legally correct"?
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Jlc
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:03
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Why would you think they couldn’t?

It was a rumour that they only enforced when limit was displayed - perhaps they are being sporting before its reported that thousands are caught...?


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MathewB
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:21
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Thanks Fedup2

I didn’t realise that they could enforce the national speed limit using the blank gantry - only when the variable speed was in place....... good to know!





Hi NewJudge,

I did a quick search of the net before posting and found some of the legislation referring to the variable speed limits on the Luton stretch of the M1, to my mind it said they would only enforce the reduced speed limit.

Would each part of the road network covered by variable speed cameras have different legislation in place?

Hi Jlc,

To be honest I don’t know why I thought that, maybe it was simply the rumour mill!

We’ve had the M1 variable speed limit in place for some time (I’m local to Luton) and never had an issue there - maybe more luck then?
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superSmiffy
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:22
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QUOTE (MathewB @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:12) *
Thanks Fedup2

I didn’t realise that they could enforce the national speed limit using the blank gantry - only when the variable speed was in place....... good to know!





Hi NewJudge,

I did a quick search of the net before posting and found some of the legislation referring to the variable speed limits on the Luton stretch of the M1, to my mind it said they would only enforce the reduced speed limit.

Would each part of the road network covered by variable speed cameras have different legislation in place?

Maybe pepipoo could perform a public service and post up:
ALL SPEED LIMITS INCLUDING NSL WHEN GANTRY SIGNS ARE NOT LIT CAN BE ENFORCED...BE WARNED.
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MathewB
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:32
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QUOTE (superSmiffy @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:22) *
QUOTE (MathewB @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:12) *
Thanks Fedup2

I didn’t realise that they could enforce the national speed limit using the blank gantry - only when the variable speed was in place....... good to know!





Hi NewJudge,

I did a quick search of the net before posting and found some of the legislation referring to the variable speed limits on the Luton stretch of the M1, to my mind it said they would only enforce the reduced speed limit.

Would each part of the road network covered by variable speed cameras have different legislation in place?

Maybe pepipoo could perform a public service and post up:
ALL SPEED LIMITS INCLUDING NSL WHEN GANTRY SIGNS ARE NOT LIT CAN BE ENFORCED...BE WARNED.



Yeah maybe??

Thing is, like me - how many people only come on here after the event?

To be fair to Northamptonshire Police, they could have just sent me the fine and not a warning!
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post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:32
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QUOTE (MathewB @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 09:48) *
Had an interesting letter through the post from Northamptonshire Police Safer Roads Team.


So a letter. Not a NIP? If so, thread needs moving to correct forum.


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MathewB
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:35
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QUOTE (peterguk @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:32) *
QUOTE (MathewB @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 09:48) *
Had an interesting letter through the post from Northamptonshire Police Safer Roads Team.


So a letter. Not a NIP? If so, thread needs moving to correct forum.


Yes Peterguk - just a warning letter

Not really up on all this form stuff - how do I move it and to which forum?

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peterguk
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QUOTE (superSmiffy @ Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 10:22) *
ALL SPEED LIMITS INCLUDING NSL WHEN GANTRY SIGNS ARE NOT LIT CAN BE ENFORCED...BE WARNED.




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fedup2
post Sun, 3 Dec 2017 - 11:10
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And down the spiral we go..........
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