Unmarked Police Cars & Catching Speeders |
Helping the motorist get justice 
Helping the motorist get justice
Unmarked Police Cars & Catching Speeders |
 Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 10:19
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27 Sep 2020 Member No.: 109,919  |
Could an unmarked police car (Hyundai IX35), with a plain clothed officer (i.e. not wearing the full gear or hi-vis) use a hand-held radar gun (or equivalent) whilst roadside? The guy was sat in the car watching the traffic. Back windows were up and tinted.
Under the circumstances would they need to be visible? |
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Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 10:27
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Yes and No. Was probably just watching the traffic.
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Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 10:28
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,360 Joined: 12 Jun 2008 From: West Sussex Member No.: 20,304 |
The only issue I could see from your description would be if the speed detector was being used through a glass window.
No need to be a Police Officer in uniform (that would negate just about all mobile speed vans!) or to be "visible", though you appear to have seen them. Sure it wasn't some sad person sat in their car holding a hair dryer? Don't laugh - I've seen it! |
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Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 10:42
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 27 Sep 2020 Member No.: 109,919 |
QUOTE (Steve_999 @ Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 11:28)  The only issue I could see from your description would be if the speed detector was being used through a glass window. No need to be a Police Officer in uniform (that would negate just about all mobile speed vans!) or to be "visible", though you appear to have seen them. Sure it wasn't some sad person sat in their car holding a hair dryer? Don't laugh - I've seen it! That's what I was thinking! Also was playing on my mind considering it was an unmarked car etc. Is it possible for the handheld devices to catch speeders from behind glass or in the car? Under these circumstances, if it was police, would they not have had to catch me up to pull me over etc |
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Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 10:44
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Member Group: Members Posts: 22,183 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
There are non-police and non-sad reasons to do that, the DfT does quite a few traffic speed surveys, it's also something various contractors will do when carrying out a road / traffic safety review for a highways authority. In such scenarios you typically go out of your way to hide / not be visible as you want to detect the natural speed of traffic, rather than the lower speed you would record if people thought there were any speed enforcement going on.
-------------------- I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law.
Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. No, I am not a lawyer. |
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Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 10:58
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QUOTE (TBE234 @ Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 11:42) Is it possible for the handheld devices to catch speeders from behind glass or in the car? Absolutely yes. Through an open window is an absolute non issue, through glass isn't recommended but the device does work and display a speed however the risk of an erroneous reading increases. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Thu, 15 Oct 2020 - 19:06
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They don’t have to stop you at the time. There's a postal process for this.
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