Caution on M'ways |
Helping the motorist get justice 
Helping the motorist get justice
Caution on M'ways |
 Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 01:22
Post
#1
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 3,816 Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Member No.: 24,962  |
This week sees the first time L drivers have been legally allowed to drive on UK motorways under Instructor supervision.
This post has been edited by ford poplar: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 01:24 |
 |
 
|
 |
| Advertisement |
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 01:22
Post
#
|
 Advertise here! |
|
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 08:06
Post
#2
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 41,583 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
My god - let's hope they have a few lessons under their belt first! (But it's a great idea as back in my day I’d only driven 30/40mph local roads and the first time on an A road was scary!!!)
Although, more shocking was the driving instructor the other day that thought it was a good idea to join an A road by pootling down the slip road to reach a heady 40mph by the end. The lorries were not impressed. To me this is one of the most dangerous times and at least getting somewhere close to 60mph must be the best approach with a free flowing road. -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 08:28
Post
#3
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 56,261 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Probably safer than a lot of the unaccompanied drivers you see on the mways! Hopefully one of the things instructors will teach is YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR IN THE LEFT LANE, HONEST, IT WONT FIRKIN EXPLODE IN FLAMES IF YOU TRY!
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 08:55
Post
#4
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 28 Mar 2014 From: Corby Member No.: 69,758 |
QUOTE (Jlc @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 09:06)  thought it was a good idea to join an A road by pootling down the slip road to reach a heady 40mph by the end Ever been to Peterborough? |
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:17
Post
#5
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 3,306 Joined: 4 Mar 2017 Member No.: 90,659 |
I guess many/most locations have 70mph dual carriageways which are more difficult than motorways anyway.
I remember at my practical test in Watford I was tonking along at 70mph (never had a problem getting to speed) when the instructor said to take the next left... which was a very tight, very close junction onto a 30mph road. Well I just about managed it, albeit testing the limits of the brakes and tyres. I'm still not sure to this day whether he misjudged it or just was a thrill seeker who enjoyed scaring candidates. But I passed first time, which significantly lowered the number of sh*ts I gave about it. This post has been edited by notmeatloaf: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:18 |
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:18
Post
#6
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
Daughter in common law passed her test, got a car, myself or wife spent time to accompany her onto motorways (and busy A roads) while she built up experience and confidence.
It has always seemed strange to me that you can pass your test, quite possibly in a quieter area and then are deemed safe to drive anywhere. Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about |
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:57
Post
#7
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 29 Oct 2013 Member No.: 66,323 |
Good.
|
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 18:40
Post
#8
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 1,535 Joined: 16 Jan 2009 From: Up north Member No.: 25,505 |
Er. HGV learners have been allowed on motorways for years.
-------------------- Bridges burnt, Rubicons crossed. Parthian shots delivered, but always with style
|
|
|
|
|
Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 19:33
Post
#9
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 28 Mar 2014 From: Corby Member No.: 69,758 |
QUOTE (oldstoat @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 19:40) Er. HGV learners have been allowed on motorways for years. Can you drive a HGV without having been able to drive a car? |
|
|
|
|
Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 08:17
Post
#10
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Member No.: 56,508 |
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) Daughter in common law passed her test, got a car, myself or wife spent time to accompany her onto motorways (and busy A roads) while she built up experience and confidence. It has always seemed strange to me that you can pass your test, quite possibly in a quieter area and then are deemed safe to drive anywhere. Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about The same applies to nearly everything to do with driving. You can pass your test in a mini, having only ever driven at 30-40mph on local roads in some places, then go and get behind the wheel of a Bugatti Veyron and belt it down the motorway at 70mph+. |
|
|
|
|
Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 10:18
Post
#11
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 56,261 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
S172's Rookies 1-0 Kent Council PCN's Rookies 1-0 Warwick Rookies 1-0 Birmingham PPC PCN's Rookies 10-0 PPC's |
|
|
|
|
Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:04
Post
#12
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 38,007 Joined: 3 Dec 2010 Member No.: 42,618 |
To be honest they're allowed on dual carriageways so I don't see it makes much of a difference.
-------------------- If you would like assistance with a penalty charge notice, please post a thread on https://www.ftla.uk/index.php
|
|
|
|
|
Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:19
Post
#13
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 25,726 Joined: 28 Jun 2010 From: Area 51 Member No.: 38,559 |
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:18) QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways. And that is supposed to give confidence.... the instructor can stop the car if needed ?  Though as I said not too much of an issue as long as the learner is capable, that is something that a good instructor will decide. Even if it only helps them sort out entering, exit and lane discipline it should do no harm and may do some good. |
|
|
|
|
Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 12:05
Post
#14
|
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 8 Dec 2011 From: Bristol, UK Member No.: 51,661 |
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 09:28) Probably safer than a lot of the unaccompanied drivers you see on the mways! Hopefully one of the things instructors will teach is YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR IN THE LEFT LANE, HONEST, IT WONT FIRKIN EXPLODE IN FLAMES IF YOU TRY! ^ This! Totally agree, there are enough "experienced" drivers who have no idea how to drive on a motorway. Was on the M5 over the weekend, with the cruise control set at 70, and was over-taken by one car at least three times who I then passed again each time. His speed varied between 50 ish (as he got over-taken by trucks) and then definitely 70+ as he flew past me. |
|
|
|
|
Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 19:34
Post
#15
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 2,356 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 From: Landan Member No.: 20,731 |
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:18) QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways. "Dual-control" car... s.172... Should be interesting! --Churchmouse |
|
|
|
|
Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:14
Post
#16
|
||||
 Webmaster  Group: Root AdminPosts: 8,205 Joined: 30 Mar 2003 From: Wokingham, UK Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:34) QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:18) QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways. "Dual-control" car... s.172... Should be interesting! --Churchmouse No more than it is on any ordinary road - the driver is the driver, it doesn't matter that the guy in the other seat has a brake pedal too. -------------------- Regards,
Fredd __________________________________________________________________________
|
|||
|
|
|
|||
|
Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:57
Post
#17
|
|
 Member Group: Members Posts: 33,634 Joined: 2 Apr 2008 From: Not in the UK Member No.: 18,483 |
QUOTE (Fredd @ Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 21:14) No more than it is on any ordinary road - the driver is the driver, it doesn't matter that the guy in the other seat has a brake pedal too. They could both be the driver! -------------------- Moderator
Any comments made do not constitute legal advice and should not be relied upon. No lawyer/client relationship should be assumed nor should any duty of care be owed. |
|
|
|
 |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: Tuesday, 16th April 2024 - 17:04 |
