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Private parking ticket in a retail park with no commercial vehicles allowed.
vandriver19
post Sat, 11 May 2019 - 20:29
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Hi all!
I have been issued a private parking ticket by UKPC, at a retail park in Lewisham, on my visit to Sports Direct, with my wife and 8 weeks old baby. I am driving a company van, but was not working on the day. As stated in my contract and insurance policy, I can use it for "Social, Domestic and Pleasure Purposes", which was the case today. I have not started the appeal, so they don't know my details yet. Will speak to my company on Monday as well, to see their take on the matter.
Also, the first sign you see as you enter, does not clearly show the restrictions of use, so I was unaware of it. Apparently ,there is "No commercial vehicles permitted on site" sign, which is not clearly visible as you enter. Have seen this had happened to an Uber driver on this forum, who got caught at the same location.
Anyone else's suggestions for an appeal, are very welcomed. Many thanks.
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post Sat, 11 May 2019 - 21:29
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Was this a windscreen ticket?

The text is indeed small and cannot read it.

The sum demanded must be hidden in the small print.
It should be displayed clearly.

Also edit your post and give no indication who drove the vehicle, refer only to "the driver" did this or that.
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vandriver19
post Mon, 13 May 2019 - 00:55
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Hi,Dave65!
Yes, it was a windscreen ticket. I don't think there are any details in my post, regarding the driver of the vehicle. The amount is £100 or £60, if paid within 14 days.
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post Mon, 13 May 2019 - 01:06
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Read through your post again!

I can ID who drove the vehicle.
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post Mon, 13 May 2019 - 04:53
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Leave nothing in that could ID the driver, no I, we, they, he, she, wife, brother etc. NONE

Refer to the driver as 'the driver' ONLY.


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post Mon, 13 May 2019 - 07:31
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Is the van actually owned by your employer or do they hire it from another company?
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post Sat, 25 May 2019 - 22:58
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I think they own it. Also they have said, that they will pass on the details of the driver.



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post Sun, 26 May 2019 - 08:17
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QUOTE (vandriver19 @ Sat, 25 May 2019 - 23:58) *
I think they own it. Also they have said, that they will pass on the details of the driver.


In these situations "Think" is not good enough. If they lease them then there is a very good way to repudiate any claim they may have. Your compnay should not be identifying the driver, they were not there, they cannot possibly know. If they must they must identify the keeper, which would be you.
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post Fri, 31 May 2019 - 13:40
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QUOTE (ostell @ Sun, 26 May 2019 - 09:17) *
QUOTE (vandriver19 @ Sat, 25 May 2019 - 23:58) *
I think they own it. Also they have said, that they will pass on the details of the driver.


In these situations "Think" is not good enough. If they lease them then there is a very good way to repudiate any claim they may have. Your compnay should not be identifying the driver, they were not there, they cannot possibly know. If they must they must identify the keeper, which would be you.

Hi,
Company owns the vehicle. What's the best way for the appeal? Have been reading a lot in this forum and still not sure how to go about it. 28 day for appealing at the first instance, had not gone past, or should the driver waits for the NtK?
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post Fri, 31 May 2019 - 14:02
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No, you appeal as the keeper (you are!) So that the appeal arrives just before the 28 day limit. See if they send a Notice to Keeper before day 56.

Appeal complaining about their right to issue charges, the quality of the signs. Anything you can think of.
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post Sat, 1 Jun 2019 - 23:53
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QUOTE (ostell @ Fri, 31 May 2019 - 15:02) *
No, you appeal as the keeper (you are!) So that the appeal arrives just before the 28 day limit. See if they send a Notice to Keeper before day 56.

Appeal complaining about their right to issue charges, the quality of the signs. Anything you can think of.

Appealing as the keeper, does it mean that all personal info should be given? Name, address, e-mail, etc.?
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post Sun, 2 Jun 2019 - 08:25
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Yes. Unless your company can think of a good reason to reject the upcoming NTK they will point the finger at you anyway, or pay it and deduct from wages.

If you appeal and then get a Notice to keeper addressed to you then you know that they have not accessed the DVLA for the registered keeper details and therefore there can be no keeper liability. If they fail to issue a NTK before day 56 then yet again that is a fail.

If they do access the DVLA and write to your company then your company MUST NOT state you were the driver, they must state you were the keeper.

Is the van signwritten?
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post Mon, 3 Jun 2019 - 23:18
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QUOTE (ostell @ Sun, 2 Jun 2019 - 09:25) *
Yes. Unless your company can think of a good reason to reject the upcoming NTK they will point the finger at you anyway, or pay it and deduct from wages.

If you appeal and then get a Notice to keeper addressed to you then you know that they have not accessed the DVLA for the registered keeper details and therefore there can be no keeper liability. If they fail to issue a NTK before day 56 then yet again that is a fail.

If they do access the DVLA and write to your company then your company MUST NOT state you were the driver, they must state you were the keeper.

Is the van signwritten?

Yes, it has the name of the company.
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