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Biggerishi
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 16:26
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Hey, Just wanted to get some extra opinions on this PCN for entering and stopping in a box junction. Does it make a difference that I attempted to move to the side of the car when I noticed that I would be left in the junction, or not since I still have 1 wheel inside of it? And does that count as blocking the junction?

https://vimeo.com/user88399087/review/359944829/1f13aba1de


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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 16:53
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To get some feedback it needs to be in the council section (as you’ve not committed a criminal offence). I’ve asked a mod to move it for you.

In addition you need a link people can click on!


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Biggerishi
post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 20:17
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 17:53) *
To get some feedback it needs to be in the council section (as you’ve not committed a criminal offence). I’ve asked a mod to move it for you.

In addition you need a link people can click on!


Thanks Rookie, I didn't realise that it had to be in that section, and I've edited the link so that it should work now.
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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 20:22
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Here you go:

https://vimeo.com/user88399087

but you've cut it off? We need to see a longer sequence.
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post Sat, 14 Sep 2019 - 21:02
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Are you the bike?


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Biggerishi
post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 06:12
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Here's the longer one.
https://vimeo.com/360066955
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 09:43
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QUOTE (Biggerishi @ Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 07:12) *
Here's the longer one.
https://vimeo.com/360066955
And yes I'm the motorbike.


post the PCN


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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 10:02
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Looks like the original purpose of this box may have changed, as we've seen with one in Newham. Where is it? Post PCN as PMB asks.

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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 10:56
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https://goo.gl/maps/HdEWLS6f3HVW63uF7

Yes, the layout has recently changed Stamph,. The YBJ keeps the way ahead clear for cycles and in the authority’s mind all vehicles turning left from Upper Marsh road, but quite how that would work without stopping in the box I'm not sure


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Biggerishi
post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 16:33
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Wow Mr Meldrew, Great eye!

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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 18:14
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Show us the other pages. Use an external site like imgur.com or similar if you run out of space.


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Biggerishi
post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 20:22
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Here's the other 3.

https://imgur.com/a/jNLvHwu
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post Sun, 15 Sep 2019 - 21:02
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Can't see any flaws on the PCN.


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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 17:14
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So am i bang to rights and have no basis for appealing?
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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 17:44
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QUOTE (Biggerishi @ Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 18:14) *
So am i bang to rights and have no basis for appealing?


A tallow box needs to be at the junction of two or more roads Given the change of use I would argue that this box is no longer at the junction of two or more roads so cannot be legal or enforced


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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 19:23
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 18:44) *
QUOTE (Biggerishi @ Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 18:14) *
So am i bang to rights and have no basis for appealing?


A tallow box needs to be at the junction of two or more roads Given the change of use I would argue that this box is no longer at the junction of two or more roads so cannot be legal or enforced

Thanks, i'll contest it using that as an argument and see what they come back with. Would I still be able to pay the reduced charge if the appeal fails and it's over the 14 day period?
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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 23:56
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 18:44) *
QUOTE (Biggerishi @ Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 18:14) *
So am i bang to rights and have no basis for appealing?


A tallow box needs to be at the junction of two or more roads Given the change of use I would argue that this box is no longer at the junction of two or more roads so cannot be legal or enforced

There's a junction with Upper Marsh on the western side of the box?


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