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IpsyDipsy
post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 08:33
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Hi all,

I received a PCN from my local authority for being in a bus lane two minutes before the restriction ends. Is there any way out of this at all? I have tried to view the image online but it doesn't appear, nor does the video. However, they have included two images in the pcn, any help would be appreciated.

The pcn can be viewed here:

https://imgur.com/dlashmm
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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 08:56
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Video - timed at less than 2 mins so can try minimal time - what made you use the lane?

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IpsyDipsy
post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 11:20
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Hi,
Thank you for your response.
To be completely honest with you the clock on my car is set about 5 minutes ahead so I didn't realise at the time that it was 9:58.
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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 12:00
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Post the rest of the PCN the date of service is so wrong but it is also very misleading


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post Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 23:06
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Tue, 17 Sep 2019 - 13:00) *
Post the rest of the PCN the date of service is so wrong but it is also very misleading

+1, it's also clearly prejudicial.


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IpsyDipsy
post Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 08:18
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Thank you all for your time, I have uploaded the rest of the document pages here:


https://imgur.com/dlashmm
https://imgur.com/7MURrir
https://imgur.com/Nqkaz7Y
https://imgur.com/F15tuTp

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post Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 15:47
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Well I think you have a very strong case that the dates on the PCN are misleading and prejudicial, but I suspect PMB has a few ideas on how to word a challenge so I'll wait for him to comment.


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post Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 15:56
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 16:47) *
Well I think you have a very strong case that the dates on the PCN are misleading and prejudicial, but I suspect PMB has a few ideas on how to word a challenge so I'll wait for him to comment.


I cannot see the required info re right to view video either, can you? or anyone


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post Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 19:21
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QUOTE (PASTMYBEST @ Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 16:56) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Wed, 18 Sep 2019 - 16:47) *
Well I think you have a very strong case that the dates on the PCN are misleading and prejudicial, but I suspect PMB has a few ideas on how to word a challenge so I'll wait for him to comment.


I cannot see the required info re right to view video either, can you? or anyone

It's not there it's even listed in the known faults at http://bit.ly/2ALghSS


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post Thu, 19 Sep 2019 - 15:11
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Ok sounds promising. I'm concerned that I may lose the 50% discount (which expires this Sunday). So far it appears as if I may have grounds (not entirely sure what they are), but I'm struggling to put together the words and justification for my challenge before Sunday arrives
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post Thu, 19 Sep 2019 - 18:40
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QUOTE (IpsyDipsy @ Thu, 19 Sep 2019 - 16:11) *
Ok sounds promising. I'm concerned that I may lose the 50% discount (which expires this Sunday). So far it appears as if I may have grounds (not entirely sure what they are), but I'm struggling to put together the words and justification for my challenge before Sunday arrives



Remind me tomorrow I will draft a quick representation that gets in all the points


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IpsyDipsy
post Fri, 20 Sep 2019 - 17:55
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Hello PASTMYBEST, just a gentle reminder if you can please prepare some wording for me. I cannot thank you all enough for your support in this matter. I think I have until Sunday or Monday to put in reps, whilst the 50% is on offer. But you all give me great confidence that the fine was not appropriate and therefore I have a legal challenge.

I look forward to your response
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post Fri, 20 Sep 2019 - 18:47
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QUOTE (IpsyDipsy @ Fri, 20 Sep 2019 - 18:55) *
Hello PASTMYBEST, just a gentle reminder if you can please prepare some wording for me. I cannot thank you all enough for your support in this matter. I think I have until Sunday or Monday to put in reps, whilst the 50% is on offer. But you all give me great confidence that the fine was not appropriate and therefore I have a legal challenge.

I look forward to your response


the 14 day period actually ends on Tuesday though if you take what the council say it has already expired go online to the payment page and see how much they want today? let me know and if £60 get a screenshot that includes the date and all the detail


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IpsyDipsy
post Mon, 23 Sep 2019 - 08:22
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HI PMB, I have gone onto the payment page and it appears as 30 GBP so the discount is still there, screenshot link is below. Is there any chance you can please draft up a challenge for me?
Also, I believe today is the last day to challenge the fine within the 14 day discount period.

https://imgur.com/pU9DBFx

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post Mon, 23 Sep 2019 - 11:27
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QUOTE (IpsyDipsy @ Mon, 23 Sep 2019 - 09:22) *
HI PMB, I have gone onto the payment page and it appears as 30 GBP so the discount is still there, screenshot link is below. Is there any chance you can please draft up a challenge for me?
Also, I believe today is the last day to challenge the fine within the 14 day discount period.

https://imgur.com/pU9DBFx


Yes I will do so this evening


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post Mon, 23 Sep 2019 - 20:47
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Here you go I have gone in a bit heavy but lets see if we can get them to cancel at this stage


https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtBHPhdJdppVvAMPo0Z...3ID_PH?e=ycF3Wl

Just fill in your details convert to PDF and attach it to their online portal


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IpsyDipsy
post Mon, 23 Sep 2019 - 21:38
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Ok, just sent it off now, fingers crossed! It was a detailed challenge, thank you for your time
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