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MHU
post Tue, 5 Dec 2017 - 13:10
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Hi

I want to know what my next steps on this are

I go to the Blackburn with Dawen Council Gym everyday, but the parking is shared with the college and can only be used after 4.30PM by Gym Members.

I parked my vehicle on a tarmacked area which had no bays, or road markings or sign posts near that area that says you cannot park here and that you must be parked in a bay. I was given a Parking Charge Notice for this and i could pay the £60 (£100 after 14days) via www.paymypcn.net

I appealed on the grounds that i parked after 4.30pm, there are no road markings (red or yellow lines or hatched areas) and there is no sign there either.

The Appeal was rejected but does not say why. If i login to paymypcn it just says Appeal Rejected - Pending, and i have had no further contact.

Do i just ignore now? Or go to the IAS as that is the next steps on the parking charge notice if i disagree with the outcome?

secondly .. just yesterday, i was parked in a bay, shortly after 4.30pm, and i have been given another ticket at 4.56pm saying no valid permit displayed ... Funnily enough though the ticket is printed at 4.56 but the paper sheet the ticket has been put in says 4.20pm!

What would you suggest on that one?

Thanks
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post Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 09:06
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was told by a friend, but think that information maybe incorrect. In future i need to double check first
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post Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 09:16
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Is there still a Parking Places Order, PPO, still in existence though?
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post Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 15:48
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QUOTE (ostell @ Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 09:16) *
Is there still a Parking Places Order, PPO, still in existence though?


Apologies if this is a daft question, but what do you mean by is there a PPO in place?
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post Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 16:03
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The council may have sold the car park but that doesn't mean that they revoked the Parking Places Order

If the Parking Places Order still exists, the location isn't relevant land in accordance with POFA
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post Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 16:45
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The land used to have a college building on there so it seems the land was college owned NOT council
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post Mon, 19 Mar 2018 - 17:24
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But have you checked for the existence of a PPO? THe college might just have belonged to the council. Look at the councils web site. Just answer the question which could give you a very quick get out of the situation instead of arguing about it.
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 09:19
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i have checked the website and there is nothing on there for this car park, i have also emailed them and they only say:

We have received your email and confirm that the Blackburn Leisure centre car park is not Council Owned

So i will email the college now too, to see if they can say if a PPO exists or not.

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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 11:38
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The college will have no idea

Repeat your question to the council and ask IF it has ever been council owned and IF SO was there ever a PPO

AS you should jabe noticed you did not get an answer about PPO, therefore you need to get an asnswer about PPO from the council. You need to ask the right question.
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 11:41
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I have asked the college and they have no idea what a PPO is ..

so assuming it may not have one on there
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 11:59
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As Nosferatu has already pointed out, the college will have no idea

The only organisation that can ever tell you is the council but you have to ask the specific questions

1 Was the car park ever council owned ?
2 If Yes, was there a Parking Place Order ?
3 If Yes, was it ever revoked ?
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 12:22
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QUOTE (Redivi @ Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 11:59) *
As Nosferatu has already pointed out, the college will have no idea

The only organisation that can ever tell you is the council but you have to ask the specific questions

1 Was the car park ever council owned ?
2 If Yes, was there a Parking Place Order ?
3 If Yes, was it ever revoked ?



Hi

No, the car park was never council owned.

I have clarified that with them this morning

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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 12:58
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Finally a definitive answer!

THat took far too many posts.

OK, so what position does that leave you in? YO uwill need to go back a few pages to work it out, and post to tell us.
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 13:04
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so currently, i am getting text messages from them every few days

But i have had to responses to the letters i sent to PCN, UCS or CBS Solictors

That is the current stage
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 13:18
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Well texts are easy to deal with. Save number and hit block on the contact. Done.

If youve not had a response, and tehy defeinitely have the correct address, theres nothing definitive you can do now.
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 16:31
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just wait til they move on to the next stage?
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post Tue, 20 Mar 2018 - 16:59
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Yes, or pay them. What else do you think you can do?

Its an invoicue. They have 6 years from breach date to start proceedings.
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post Wed, 21 Mar 2018 - 08:59
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I think i will just wait .. smile.gif
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