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ford poplar
post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 01:22
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This week sees the first time L drivers have been legally allowed to drive on UK motorways under Instructor supervision.

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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 08:06
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My god - let's hope they have a few lessons under their belt first! (But it's a great idea as back in my day I’d only driven 30/40mph local roads and the first time on an A road was scary!!!)

Although, more shocking was the driving instructor the other day that thought it was a good idea to join an A road by pootling down the slip road to reach a heady 40mph by the end. The lorries were not impressed. To me this is one of the most dangerous times and at least getting somewhere close to 60mph must be the best approach with a free flowing road.


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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 08:28
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Probably safer than a lot of the unaccompanied drivers you see on the mways! Hopefully one of the things instructors will teach is YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR IN THE LEFT LANE, HONEST, IT WONT FIRKIN EXPLODE IN FLAMES IF YOU TRY!


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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 08:55
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QUOTE (Jlc @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 09:06) *
thought it was a good idea to join an A road by pootling down the slip road to reach a heady 40mph by the end


Ever been to Peterborough?
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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:17
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I guess many/most locations have 70mph dual carriageways which are more difficult than motorways anyway.

I remember at my practical test in Watford I was tonking along at 70mph (never had a problem getting to speed) when the instructor said to take the next left... which was a very tight, very close junction onto a 30mph road. Well I just about managed it, albeit testing the limits of the brakes and tyres.

I'm still not sure to this day whether he misjudged it or just was a thrill seeker who enjoyed scaring candidates. But I passed first time, which significantly lowered the number of sh*ts I gave about it.

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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:18
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Daughter in common law passed her test, got a car, myself or wife spent time to accompany her onto motorways (and busy A roads) while she built up experience and confidence.

It has always seemed strange to me that you can pass your test, quite possibly in a quieter area and then are deemed safe to drive anywhere.
Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about
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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 11:57
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Good.
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Er. HGV learners have been allowed on motorways for years.


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post Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 19:33
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QUOTE (oldstoat @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 19:40) *
Er. HGV learners have been allowed on motorways for years.


Can you drive a HGV without having been able to drive a car?
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post Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 08:17
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) *
Daughter in common law passed her test, got a car, myself or wife spent time to accompany her onto motorways (and busy A roads) while she built up experience and confidence.

It has always seemed strange to me that you can pass your test, quite possibly in a quieter area and then are deemed safe to drive anywhere.
Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about


The same applies to nearly everything to do with driving.

You can pass your test in a mini, having only ever driven at 30-40mph on local roads in some places, then go and get behind the wheel of a Bugatti Veyron and belt it down the motorway at 70mph+.
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post Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 10:18
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QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) *
Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about

Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways.


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post Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:04
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To be honest they're allowed on dual carriageways so I don't see it makes much of a difference.


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post Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:19
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:18) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) *
Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about

Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways.



And that is supposed to give confidence.... the instructor can stop the car if needed ? biggrin.gif


Though as I said not too much of an issue as long as the learner is capable, that is something that a good instructor will decide.
Even if it only helps them sort out entering, exit and lane discipline it should do no harm and may do some good.
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post Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 12:05
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 09:28) *
Probably safer than a lot of the unaccompanied drivers you see on the mways! Hopefully one of the things instructors will teach is YOU CAN DRIVE A CAR IN THE LEFT LANE, HONEST, IT WONT FIRKIN EXPLODE IN FLAMES IF YOU TRY!


^ This!

Totally agree, there are enough "experienced" drivers who have no idea how to drive on a motorway. Was on the M5 over the weekend, with the cruise control set at 70, and was over-taken by one car at least three times who I then passed again each time. His speed varied between 50 ish (as he got over-taken by trucks) and then definitely 70+ as he flew past me.
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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 19:34
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QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:18) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) *
Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about

Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways.

"Dual-control" car... s.172... Should be interesting!

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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:14
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QUOTE (Churchmouse @ Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:34) *
QUOTE (The Rookie @ Mon, 4 Jun 2018 - 11:18) *
QUOTE (DancingDad @ Sun, 3 Jun 2018 - 12:18) *
Haven't an issue with learners on Motorways but hopefully they are more capable of driving then many I see out and about

Note that its ONLY with a licenced instructor and in a dual control car that they are allowed on m'ways.

"Dual-control" car... s.172... Should be interesting!

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No more than it is on any ordinary road - the driver is the driver, it doesn't matter that the guy in the other seat has a brake pedal too.


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post Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 20:57
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Tue, 5 Jun 2018 - 21:14) *
No more than it is on any ordinary road - the driver is the driver, it doesn't matter that the guy in the other seat has a brake pedal too.

They could both be the driver!


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