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devilsrear
post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 12:38
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My wife has had a NIP and completed and returned it.

They have suggested a course or statorary fine.

The letter has her middle name wrong - does she ignore it ? or contact them?
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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 12:46
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They will prosecute if ignored. An 'error' in the middle name does not create a defence.


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RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution
PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 14:59
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QUOTE (devilsrear @ Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 13:38) *
The letter has her middle name wrong - does she ignore it ? or contact them?

By all means let them know the correct name so that their records are correct, but your wife should book and attend the course as this is by far the best outcome.


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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 15:25
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Out of interest, how 'wrong'? Is it correct on the v5?

Or have they fat fingered it from the s172 response?


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PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information

Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it.
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post Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 16:11
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QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 15:59) *
but your wife should book and attend the course as this is by far the best outcome.

That rather depends on the offence and the OP's wife's circumstances, which you haven't actually determined, doesn't it?


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post Thu, 13 Jun 2019 - 18:55
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QUOTE (Fredd @ Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 17:11) *
QUOTE (cp8759 @ Tue, 11 Jun 2019 - 15:59) *
but your wife should book and attend the course as this is by far the best outcome.

That rather depends on the offence and the OP's wife's circumstances, which you haven't actually determined, doesn't it?

Fair point, but the OP doesn't suggest there's any grounds to dispute the allegation aside form the name error. If the alleged limit was 30 and the signs on the road said 40, or the pictures from the RLC show the lights were green, I would expect the OP to mention it.


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post Fri, 14 Jun 2019 - 09:48
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Yes, but you don't know if she already has points, or maybe is time poor and would find the course more of a pain, etc. What you might think is the preferable option isn't necessarily right for somebody else.


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QUOTE (Fredd @ Fri, 14 Jun 2019 - 10:48) *
Yes, but you don't know if she already has points, or maybe is time poor and would find the course more of a pain, etc. What you might think is the preferable option isn't necessarily right for somebody else.

As I understand it, a course is only offered as an option if the police have determined the person is eligible (which they would have done by now as the correspondence in question was issued by the police after receipt of the s172 reply). If the OP's wife would rather pay a penalty and take the points rather than take the time to attend a course, she can work that out for herself, surely?


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post Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 19:03
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So why are you telling her that's her best option, in ignorance of her situation or preference?


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post Mon, 17 Jun 2019 - 20:25
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If the accused's well-meaning relative seeks advice on their behalf but tells us next to nothing, we can either use my favourite response or give them the best generalised advice we reasonably can. As many posters seem to prefer to waste their time offering advice to posters who won't provide anything to base advice on, the resulting advice is going to be somewhat generalised.

N.B. The thread title is "speed awareness course", which would seem reasonable to assume would be plan B if the OP's cunning get out of jail free idea is as flawed as it clearly is.


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