[NIP Wizard] Salfordlad, Wrong Red Light Camera/ Location given on NIP |
[NIP Wizard] Salfordlad, Wrong Red Light Camera/ Location given on NIP |
Sat, 22 Sep 2018 - 15:36
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,012 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - September 2018 Date of the NIP: - 5 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 7 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A5063 Albion Way, Jct Liverpool Street, Salford United Kingdom Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - First If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 0 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - I have received a NIP for failing to comply with a traffic light signal. time into red signal was 1.4 seconds. I was driving the car at the time of the offence but not at the location named on the NIP. I was approximately 4 miles away in another direction towards my home address. In the area that I was diving in there are a number of traffic lights with cameras and it is possible that the offence may have happened at one of these. Assuming that I am guilty of committing the offence at one of these other locations, do I have any legal defence. What I don't want is for me to contest the NIP and then be served with a new NIP containing the correct details. If I am offered a diversionary training course and a conditional offer of a fixed penalty would it be far simpler to pay for and attend the course. As on completion of the course the conditional fixed penalty will be discontinued and no points applied, as indicated in the leaflet sent with the NIP. The threshold used by GMP for offering the diversionary training course for red light offences is 2.9 seconds, so it is likely to be offered to me. NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:36:06 +0000 This post has been edited by Salfordlad: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 - 15:48 |
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Sat, 22 Sep 2018 - 16:03
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
The time may not be 100% spot on.
Are you saying you didn’t pass through the location given at all? -------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Sat, 22 Sep 2018 - 16:06
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,012 |
I didn't pass the location through the location given at all.
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Sat, 22 Sep 2018 - 16:50
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Best thing as a starter is AFTER 14 days from the alleged offence date have elapsed (so a revised NIP cannot be sent) is a bemused call to the camera office stating you were never at the location given, it’s quite possible they will cancel it with little hassle.
You could write and ask for photos ‘to help confirm the drivers ID’ or similar wording, if they send any the background will confirm or otherwise your beleifs, then if they dint cancel you can be more confident about taking forward as a defence, that would have to be done before calling them. -------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 20:22
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 22 Sep 2018 Member No.: 100,012 |
Hi The Rookie
Thanks for the great advice. I followed your advice and contacted GMP. After a few emails back and forth they canceled the NIP. Once again thanks for your help and advice |
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Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 20:24
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Member Group: Members Posts: 41,510 Joined: 25 Aug 2011 From: Planet Earth Member No.: 49,223 |
Thanks for coming back. Interesting...
-------------------- RK=Registered Keeper, OP=Original Poster (You!), CoFP=Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, NtK=Notice to Keeper, NtD=Notice to Driver
PoFA=Protection of Freedoms Act, SAC=Safety Awareness Course, NIP=Notice of Intended Prosecution, ADR=Alternative Dispute Resolution PPC=Private Parking Company, LBCCC=Letter Before County Court Claim, PII=Personally Identifiable Information, SAR=Subject Access Request Private Parking - remember, they just want your money and will say almost anything to get it. |
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Mon, 10 Dec 2018 - 21:40
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56,198 Joined: 9 Sep 2003 From: Warwickshire Member No.: 317 |
Good result, well done.
-------------------- There is no such thing as a law abiding motorist, just those who have been scammed and those yet to be scammed!
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