[NIP Wizard] Another dodgy Lti 2020 photo? |
[NIP Wizard] Another dodgy Lti 2020 photo? |
Mon, 11 Sep 2017 - 09:42
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Sep 2017 Member No.: 93,956 |
NIP Details and Circumstances
What is the name of the Constabulary? - Date of the offence: - April 2017 Date of the NIP: - 11 days after the offence Date you received the NIP: - 13 days after the offence Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A30 Launceston Bypass Trebursye onslip enforcement bay, Cornwall, both directions Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - Not known If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - How many current points do you have? - 3 Provide a description of events (if you know what happened) telling us as much about the incident as possible - some things that may seem trivial to you may be important, so don't leave anything out. Please do not post personal details for obvious reasons - Driving eastwards on A30 in traffic, uphill and right hand bend noticed Police Van in refuge on LHS but thought at the time speed was not excessive and didn't think twice about passing camera. Later received NIP stating 82mph. Confirmed I was the driver and requested photo evidence which shows at 519.9m out I was pinged at 82mph by Lastec Lti 2020 device. Cross hairs on bonnet just beneath passenger window. Also 2 other cars in photo, one quite a distance in front and second in inside lane immediately to right of my car. From centre of cross hairs to centre of my number plate is twice distance to car behind me - ie cross hairs considerably closer to following car than my front number plate. I have now received SJPN notice and as I was away have only 3 days left to respond G/NG. Having read considerable amount online am considering requesting video evidence before making final decision. Would probably only consider defending myself as prohibitive costs to involve lawyers? What do you think, and I wasting my time and should just plead guilty even though I am pretty sure I wasn't doing close to 82mph? NIP Wizard Responses These were the responses used by the Wizard to arrive at its recommendation: Have you received a NIP? - Yes Are you the Registered Keeper of the vehicle concerned (is your name and address on the V5/V5C)? - Yes Did the first NIP arrive within 14 days? - Yes Although you are the Registered Keeper, were you also the keeper of the vehicle concerned (the person normally responsible for it) at the time of the alleged offence? - Yes Were you driving? - Yes Which country did the alleged offence take place in? - England NIP Wizard Recommendation Based on these responses the Wizard suggested that this course of action should be considered:
Generated by the PePiPoo NIP Wizard v3.3.2: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:42:40 +0000 |
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Sun, 8 Oct 2017 - 13:04
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 10 Sep 2017 Member No.: 93,956 |
Ignore last post re distance being incorrect.
Google maps scale bar for this particular site which I was using is significantly off and a check using OS 1: 1250 shows line of site from Laser to vehicle is just is possible. Bing Maps scale bar corresponds with OS too so be warned if using Google Maps to scale distances - check it with another source if important. Looks like I will finally have to roll over and accept the fine/points, although may wait a bit to see if/when CPS produce requested evidence. Thanks for all advice. |
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Sun, 8 Oct 2017 - 13:04
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Sun, 8 Oct 2017 - 20:46
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Member Group: Closed Posts: 340 Joined: 5 Apr 2010 From: Leicester Member No.: 36,663 |
It is very interesting that you have these thoughts that the operator may have taken the opinion of speed either before activating the device or an opinion taken after he/she had activated the device. It is irrelevant when he/she formed the opinion, but he/she obviously did form an opinion, and you cannot question his/her statement. Under section 9, you can only question the author of the statement if he/she is present in the court room and has been requested to give evidence. If however they fail to attend you may ask the magistrates to ignore the statement and the photo taken by him/her, because it may just put you at a disadvantage not being able to question the statement, and then they will more than likely call an adjournment so the officer can verbally back up their statement.
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